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The patriot act is unconstitutional. Does anyone agree? I know its for good but it breaks the amendment of not being searched without a warant.

It's the worst thing to have happened. Almost. The precedents set out in that act are terrifying.

For example, if someone you know commits an 'act of terrorism' (which these days can be as simple as an animal rights protest) and you didn't tell the authorities they were even thinking about it, you could be in trouble? Technically speaking, it expects people to read each other's minds and sets friend against friend.

I despise the Patriot Act with a vengeance, but it is probably considered a walk in the park compared to Saudi Arabia's domestic policies.

Tim

Your question reminds me of this article (not sure if it's true or not):

I am not so concerned with whether or not the law is constitutional, the government as been using the constitution as a butt rag at least since the Cold War and at times before that even. I just consider it the wrong law without regard for constitutionality. Now, I guess I would like Supreme Court justices who would consider it unconstitutional, but I am not the judge of constitutionality.

I believe theyr expecting their plan to fill out by 2012 or 2013.

2012 perhaps... it's often spoken of as 'the end of the world' due to the Mayan calendar ending then, but it's mis-represented. The reason it ends then is that they speak of a shift in global consciousness and awareness so that we will no longer need it, not because the world ends at all. Don't believe the propaganda; the one thing they say is that we all need to put out good thoughts of a positive outcome for it and that's exactly what we need to do. This is our chance to NOT let them win - let's make sure it goes well and this shift is so much for the better than ever thought possible.

I don't know how much of it I believe, but if it is true then we need to keep positive and think of it as the great thing the Mayans told us.

Regardless of your stance on it, I think there's little doubt that it's not constitutional.

The legality of the Patriot Act can't really be debated. It violates amendments 1, 4, and 5 just off the top of my head. It being "good" or not is also outside debate; something that allows law enforcement to infiltrate peaceful opposition groups and permits the establishment of marshal law whenever our fuhrer thinks there's an emergency is something you would expect from Soviet Russia, but not from the poster child of Enlightenment political thought.
So the question remaining: what is to be done about it? Elect someone else? Ah, but we don't really have voting in this country, and even if we did, all our options are equally miserable (Hillary vs. Romney isn't much of a choice). Violent revolt is obviously impractical and of dubious moral virtue. You could try fleeing to Canada, but when/if North American integration (our Anschluss) comes, that won't be much help. So what can be done?

Heh, nothing really can be done as for saving the world, all you can really do is try to spread enlightenment to what is happening to those who would listen, and try to develop your conscience as much as possible.

This has been planned out for centuries, we can't stop something so powerful. Man will not stop this evil.