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29 Aug 2008, 2:11 pm

Possible is not the same as real or actual. The CIA could. The KGB could. The Mossad could. Heck, if you just want possibilities then you could have a fairly long list. Why would you desire to insinuate the CIA when there are so many options...



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29 Aug 2008, 2:19 pm

I forgot to mention that there is still a significant health fallout for the people who worked at the trade center site looking for bodies and clearing the massive amount of debris. Thousands of workers have filed a class action lawsuit and a number have already died from cancers or respiratory problems. (This never really makes the news for some reason...) The long term consequences of the population's and workers' exposure won't be known for some time to come. The buildings continued smoldering until November.

I was pregnant at the time and live a few miles from the site. My daughter was born very small and has health problems none of her siblings do. I guess it could be coincidence but it seems strange.



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29 Aug 2008, 2:25 pm

Maybe they used a nuclear bomb and nobody remembers because they neuralized everyone.

Sorry for your baby.



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29 Aug 2008, 2:26 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Possible is not the same as real or actual. The CIA could. The KGB could. The Mossad could. Heck, if you just want possibilities then you could have a fairly long list. Why would you desire to insinuate the CIA when there are so many options...


did you just ask me WHY?!..

Ohhhhhh mann...

well I guess it all boils down to that doesn it?.. Why would I suspect the government commiting a false flag attack?.. well simple, because the government HAS more motive than anyone to do such a thing.. they used it to get the consent from the people to go to war in the middleeast.. it was the thing they needed and is the purpose for all false flag attacks.. there is no reason to Be in the middleeast.. im so sick of people not listening.. not watching.. not having a perspective.. Open your freaking eyes to the bigger picture.. people seem to not wanna believe it's possible because they live an ignorant life, or at least somewhat enjoy it..
Never heard of New World Order?.. well get with the 'program'..

Im not saying It was JUST the CIA ok all of the agencies are the same anyways.. i dont care whether it was the CIA FBI or NSA.. Apparently the FBI had more involvement but it doesnt really matter to me.



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29 Aug 2008, 2:37 pm

ShawnWilliam wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Possible is not the same as real or actual. The CIA could. The KGB could. The Mossad could. Heck, if you just want possibilities then you could have a fairly long list. Why would you desire to insinuate the CIA when there are so many options...


did you just ask me WHY?!..

Ohhhhhh mann...

well I guess it all boils down to that doesn it?.. Why would I suspect the government commiting a false flag attack?.. well simple, because the government HAS more motive than anyone to do such a thing.. they used it to get the consent from the people to go to war in the middleeast.. it was the thing they needed and is the purpose for all false flag attacks.. there is no reason to Be in the middleeast.. im so sick of people not listening.. not watching.. not having a perspective.. Open your freaking eyes to the bigger picture.. people seem to not wanna believe it's possible because they live an ignorant life, or at least somewhat enjoy it..
Never heard of New World Order?.. well get with the 'program'..

Im not saying It was JUST the CIA ok all of the agencies are the same anyways.. i dont care whether it was the CIA FBI or NSA.. Apparently the FBI had more involvement but it doesnt really matter to me.


Please don't call me ignorant.

I think you've let your imagination carry you away.

I've spent time in the circles of the powerful, I've got a glimmer, and while I don't care for the selling of your soul that that world requires, they just don't have the collective mindset your ideas require.


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29 Aug 2008, 2:43 pm

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iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Possible is not the same as real or actual. The CIA could. The KGB could. The Mossad could. Heck, if you just want possibilities then you could have a fairly long list. Why would you desire to insinuate the CIA when there are so many options...


did you just ask me WHY?!..

Ohhhhhh mann...

well I guess it all boils down to that doesn it?.. Why would I suspect the government commiting a false flag attack?.. well simple, because the government HAS more motive than anyone to do such a thing.. they used it to get the consent from the people to go to war in the middleeast.. it was the thing they needed and is the purpose for all false flag attacks.. there is no reason to Be in the middleeast.. im so sick of people not listening.. not watching.. not having a perspective.. Open your freaking eyes to the bigger picture.. people seem to not wanna believe it's possible because they live an ignorant life, or at least somewhat enjoy it..
Never heard of New World Order?.. well get with the 'program'..

Im not saying It was JUST the CIA ok all of the agencies are the same anyways.. i dont care whether it was the CIA FBI or NSA.. Apparently the FBI had more involvement but it doesnt really matter to me.


Please don't call me ignorant.

I think you've let your imagination carry you away.

I've spent time in the circles of the powerful, I've got a glimmer, and while I don't care for the selling of your soul that that world requires, they just don't have the collective mindset your ideas require.

No you never spent time in the circles of power, because you would be claiming that you were in one of the 13 royal illuminati families of the world, the only true families in power.. the only true power in this world today is inherited wealth power.. all the wealth is kept within the families of the giants by imbreeding.. How could you know anything about this just because you served a few years in an office somewhere?.. the whole government isnt expected to keep a secret, because not everyone KNOWs whats going on.
the illuminati structure is complex but also very simple.. the pyramid structure.. the people on the bottom are clueless mindless sheep.. and the people on the next level have a bit more power, but they still dont know what the ones above them are planning.. the people in the middle are presidents and people in high government most of the time.. but even they dont know everything that is being planned from above.. and they are fully aware of this, and fulfill their duties as imbred royal scum. The Skull and Bones club is a part of the illuminati structure, which George Bush and John Kerry knowingly were involved in and even admitted so.. FreeMasonry is also apart of the illuminati structure, denied by all of the people on the bottom because they are not meant to know.. so the structure is complex and varies from occult to occult.. with different leaders and sections, just like the compartmentalisation that you get in the government nowadays, but all ruled by the same iron first.

New World Order is the plan.. and George Bush Senior said it himself.. as did people before him.. its not a myth, its whats happening right now, so I suggest you look around and stick up for yourself or you'll be tagged and bagged but im not selling myself to be a slave to no one..



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29 Aug 2008, 3:15 pm

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think about it?. Could you let me know please? those of you who are living there, now so many years later, do general public believe official version or on the contrary, most ppl thinkalready it was an inside job?

Thanks, i´d appreaciate your comments about it.


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29 Aug 2008, 3:16 pm

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DW_a_mom wrote:
ShawnWilliam wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Possible is not the same as real or actual. The CIA could. The KGB could. The Mossad could. Heck, if you just want possibilities then you could have a fairly long list. Why would you desire to insinuate the CIA when there are so many options...


did you just ask me WHY?!..

Ohhhhhh mann...

well I guess it all boils down to that doesn it?.. Why would I suspect the government commiting a false flag attack?.. well simple, because the government HAS more motive than anyone to do such a thing.. they used it to get the consent from the people to go to war in the middleeast.. it was the thing they needed and is the purpose for all false flag attacks.. there is no reason to Be in the middleeast.. im so sick of people not listening.. not watching.. not having a perspective.. Open your freaking eyes to the bigger picture.. people seem to not wanna believe it's possible because they live an ignorant life, or at least somewhat enjoy it..
Never heard of New World Order?.. well get with the 'program'..

Im not saying It was JUST the CIA ok all of the agencies are the same anyways.. i dont care whether it was the CIA FBI or NSA.. Apparently the FBI had more involvement but it doesnt really matter to me.


Please don't call me ignorant.

I think you've let your imagination carry you away.

I've spent time in the circles of the powerful, I've got a glimmer, and while I don't care for the selling of your soul that that world requires, they just don't have the collective mindset your ideas require.

No you never spent time in the circles of power, because you would be claiming that you were in one of the 13 royal illuminati families of the world, the only true families in power.. the only true power in this world today is inherited wealth power.. all the wealth is kept within the families of the giants by imbreeding.. How could you know anything about this just because you served a few years in an office somewhere?.. the whole government isnt expected to keep a secret, because not everyone KNOWs whats going on.
the illuminati structure is complex but also very simple.. the pyramid structure.. the people on the bottom are clueless mindless sheep.. and the people on the next level have a bit more power, but they still dont know what the ones above them are planning.. the people in the middle are presidents and people in high government most of the time.. but even they dont know everything that is being planned from above.. and they are fully aware of this, and fulfill their duties as imbred royal scum. The Skull and Bones club is a part of the illuminati structure, which George Bush and John Kerry knowingly were involved in and even admitted so.. FreeMasonry is also apart of the illuminati structure, denied by all of the people on the bottom because they are not meant to know.. so the structure is complex and varies from occult to occult.. with different leaders and sections, just like the compartmentalisation that you get in the government nowadays, but all ruled by the same iron first.

New World Order is the plan.. and George Bush Senior said it himself.. as did people before him.. its not a myth, its whats happening right now, so I suggest you look around and stick up for yourself or you'll be tagged and bagged but im not selling myself to be a slave to no one..



Everyone I've ever worked with would have a hearty laugh at the idea I might be a pawn .... :lol:


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29 Aug 2008, 6:36 pm

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Everyone I've ever worked with would have a hearty laugh at the idea I might be a pawn .... :lol:[/quote]

Ahah, you are though! :lol: because you're proactive! you're a tool of evil.



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29 Aug 2008, 7:30 pm

Thanks for all your comments !

I ´m actually most interested in knowing what ppl in NY think about, cos its obviously where most of tragedy took place and ppl are better informed with witnesses still living there and rescue workers, and all who can give their own accounts of what really happened.

So Apatura, first of all, sorry to hear about your baby. To be honest i´m also aware about this fact (radiation in the site) cos its very well known already. I´ve also read about it happening in the pentagon area. But i wont comment on that in here.

I believe american´s living elsewhere, so far from the tragedy site won´t hardly even talk about it now or will just want to forget it since they don´t have friends nor acquaintances involved in this..which is what usually happens.
But i don´t understand how ppl don´t demand for more transparency from your gov telling you the truth since there are so many obvious mistakes and facts hidden from the official story,also facts denied that even happened yet too many accountants and also live coverage we have all seen on tv with firefighters, police, witnesses talking about all the explosions there were on the buildings prior to their "collapse", you can even hear the famous "second explosion" in the youtube links (which is a real proof there were bombs planted inside and outside adjacent to the building as police reported)
For eg on this one:( EDIT: the same LeKiwi just posted in here before)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw

So what should i believe better? those fire fighters police officers and even reporters who were there at the site reporting of so many explosions in order to bring the building down, like firefighters said? or should i believe gov´s official story which says no bombs on building!?! mmm What you think we´re all stupid or wht?? I just know no one buys the official story outside america, that is..

I wonder what all those poor rescuers and witnesses are thinking now, seeing how their gov just tell them that didnt happen...and us home watching tv and listening to the explosions..we are wrong aswell...

Anyway..thanks again for all of your comments its good to know whats going on in NY these days and how ppl are slowly awakening as it seems from what Apatura has told us.

EDIT: LeKiwi, ShawnWilliam ValMikeSmith (and others): i agree with all your comments just seen most of them now, seems your right,Lekiwi and us outside america are the ones who can easily see the whole picture not being brainwashed with propaganda like they are.
However I can tell things are slightly changing, only slightly but probably with Obama..i dont know but they may want to stop lying so much though i think they wont tell the truth not yet..but we´ll see..
At least some ppl in NY are awakening as Apatura was mentioning. Thats good news.

ANd did you noticed how someone, cant remember now who it was, said: Bush might be reading what your saying???! ! isnt it striking for you? I laughed at it but it just shows how AFRAID many americans are of their govment. That´s exactly what´s going on over there...So not only brainwashed but live under permanent fear of their own gov..just as in a dictatorship ...not saying bad things about their govm just in case...
It just reminded me of Spain in the 50´s with Franco´s dictatorship..same comments back then..
Scary.....



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29 Aug 2008, 8:26 pm

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did you noticed how someone, cant remember now who it was, said: Bush might be reading what your saying???! ! isnt it striking for you? I laughed at it but it just shows how AFRAID many americans are of their govment. That´s exactly what´s going on over there...So not only brainwashed but live under permanent fear of their own gov..just as in a dictatorship ...not saying bad things about their govm just in case...
It just reminded me of Spain in the 50´s with Franco´s dictatorship..same comments back then..
Scary.....


The people that they snatch seem mainly to be arriving or departing the country by air when they are 'rendered' overseas for torture (so far); I hate flying, so I'm not in any danger yet. Otoh, I'll be compelled to leave the country if McCain gets elected; he seems to heart Guantanamo, thinks that habeus corpus is 'quaint,' and probably wouldn't hesitate to be a little more 'proactive' with dissenters like myself.



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29 Aug 2008, 9:19 pm

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So Apatura, first of all, sorry to hear about your baby. To be honest i´m also aware about this fact (radiation in the site) cos its very well known already. I´ve also read about it happening in the pentagon area. But i wont comment on that in here.

Radiation? Riiight... :roll:


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29 Aug 2008, 9:25 pm

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mariag wrote:
So Apatura, first of all, sorry to hear about your baby. To be honest i´m also aware about this fact (radiation in the site) cos its very well known already. I´ve also read about it happening in the pentagon area. But i wont comment on that in here.

Radiation? Riiight... :roll:


the explosives they used to take down the towers contain radioactive material.. I forget what the stuff is called, but they use it in the military, its the only material that could have been used to take out steel beams.. so yes, radiation.



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29 Aug 2008, 9:32 pm

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EDIT: LeKiwi, ShawnWilliam ValMikeSmith (and others): i agree with all your comments just seen most of them now, seems your right,Lekiwi and us outside america are the ones who can easily see the whole picture not being brainwashed with propaganda like they are.
However I can tell things are slightly changing, only slightly but probably with Obama..i dont know but they may want to stop lying so much though i think they wont tell the truth not yet..but we´ll see..
At least some ppl in NY are awakening as Apatura was mentioning. Thats good news.

ANd did you noticed how someone, cant remember now who it was, said: Bush might be reading what your saying???! ! isnt it striking for you? I laughed at it but it just shows how AFRAID many americans are of their govment. That´s exactly what´s going on over there...So not only brainwashed but live under permanent fear of their own gov..just as in a dictatorship ...not saying bad things about their govm just in case...
It just reminded me of Spain in the 50´s with Franco´s dictatorship..same comments back then..
Scary.....



responding to the first paragraph.. ya know, I find it disturbing how much they not only lie but mock people.. Obama said in one video I watched that there's 57 states.. and he seemed to do it deliberately, as if to make fun of America. . yet people are so stupid they dont even notice these things and catch on.. I dont think that it was a mistake, I think that he's slime. But people still cheer him on.. He mocks them and they cheer him on.. doesnt that remind you of the famous rock'n'roll salute?.. raise the middle finger to the crowd and they cheer?..

and I doubt Bush is reading anything you're saying haha.. I dont think he has time for any of that, but his little agencies yeah they are.. they surveillance internet activities.. but the point is to NOT be afraid and NOT let them dictate your life based on fear.. and do NOT let them force you to give up your liberties for 'safety'. that is the bottom line.



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29 Aug 2008, 10:37 pm

mariag wrote:
Thanks for all your comments !

I ´m actually most interested in knowing what ppl in NY think about, cos its obviously where most of tragedy took place and ppl are better informed with witnesses still living there and rescue workers, and all who can give their own accounts of what really happened.


Based off what I got off people who went to NYC (met some of them at Chicago Peace Fest this June) and comments from Alex Jones and his interviews, etc a LOT are pissed off at what the Bush Admin did regarding the 'cleanup' of all the s**t that's in the air and saying it was 'safe' then all the illnesses..

Lots of the Firefighters/Police Officers think the official 9/11 story is BS too...

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seems your right,Lekiwi and us outside america are the ones who can easily see the whole picture not being brainwashed with propaganda like they are.


actually 1/3 of the US thinks the Us Government ALLOWED 9/11 to happen at least
http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll

9/11 truth is spreading...


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29 Aug 2008, 10:40 pm

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mariag wrote:
So Apatura, first of all, sorry to hear about your baby. To be honest i´m also aware about this fact (radiation in the site) cos its very well known already. I´ve also read about it happening in the pentagon area. But i wont comment on that in here.

Radiation? Riiight... :roll:


whatever gunk and toxic chemicals were in the buildings contaminated the area.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/05/nyreg ... rtcnd.html

IT may not be 'radiation' but it's not good...

EDIT: and the Bush Regime intentionally did this s**t too; covering it up. There was a NYtimes article on this but the socialists will do
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/aug2003/epa-a28.shtml


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