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13 Oct 2008, 9:16 am

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Christianity and any society founded on its principles will never approve of witchcraft. That is a fact.

You are, of course, assuming that what you believe 'witchcraft' to be is the same as the modern reconstructed pagan religion of Wicca, or even the same as what the Old Testament writers meant in the original Hebrew. There's a discussion of the distinctions here: http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_pott1.htm

However, bear in mind that the OT decrees the death penalty for anyone who worships any other god but the Jewish God. So Wicca should be no more or less abhorrent to a Christian society than any other non-Christian religion.

Assuming this is the case, what rights should a Christian society, in your view, grant to followers of other religions?

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13 Oct 2008, 9:22 am

ThatRedHairedGrrl wrote:

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Christianity and any society founded on its principles will never approve of witchcraft. That is a fact.

That depends on whether it is a theocracy or a democracy with a separation of church and state. Canada is a democracy with freedom of religion guaranteed to our citizens yet our mother nation -Britain- was and to a diminished degree still is a Christian state. So as much as Christianity may abhor witchcraft, we can't legally prevent Canadian Wiccans from doing their thing.

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13 Oct 2008, 11:08 am

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So Saudi Arabia is justified in outlawing and persecuting non-muslims simply because it is a historically muslim country?

Both Saudi Arabia and the UK should be held to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. They cannot cite tradition or "that's the way we have always done things" to support religious discrimination.

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Article 18.

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

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13 Oct 2008, 11:55 am

17 pages and still all of you suck

Khan, I like your avatar , this 2-headed sword is called Zulfukar or Zulfiqar , A Sh'iite symbol since imam Ali held such sword .... your mother won't be so happy.

So , are you planning to engage a djihad against WP?

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13 Oct 2008, 12:09 pm

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17 pages and still all of you suck

Suck what my dear?

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13 Oct 2008, 1:23 pm

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17 pages and still all of you suck

Even me??

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13 Oct 2008, 7:46 pm

Why do we all suck?

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14 Oct 2008, 7:22 am

LePetitPrince wrote:

17 pages and still all of you suck

Khan, I like your avatar , this 2-headed sword is called Zulfukar or Zulfiqar , A Sh'iite symbol since imam Ali held such sword .... your mother won't be so happy.

So , are you planning to engage a djihad against WP?

Lol, rofl! Thanks! No Jihad though. ^^;

The Sunni respect Hazrath Ali too. It's the Ibadi who dislike him. Anyway, I belong to no sect.

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14 Oct 2008, 7:25 am

Khan Sama, what would be the tactical advantage of have a pronged blade like that?

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14 Oct 2008, 7:31 am

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Anyway, I belong to no sect.

Do you believe that spiritual progress is possible outside Islam or even for people who don't belong to a recognized religion?

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14 Oct 2008, 6:06 pm

slowmutant wrote:

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Christianity and any society founded on its principles will never approve of witchcraft. That is a fact.

FAIL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Wicca

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christo-paganism

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14 Oct 2008, 6:08 pm

Delirium wrote:

slowmutant wrote:

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Christianity and any society founded on its principles will never approve of witchcraft. That is a fact.

FAIL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Wicca

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christo-paganism

SUCCEED.

Read the Bible. Ask any Christian about witchcraft.

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14 Oct 2008, 6:59 pm

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Khan Sama, what would be the tactical advantage of have a pronged blade like that?

slowmutant, watch this scene from the movie "The Message" depicting the battle of Badr. In the film, Prophet Muhammed (SAW), his wives, and Hazrath Ali are not shown, keeping Islamic tradition in mind. The one wielding the sword is Hazrath Ali.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb9Eosmbt4w[/youtube]

Daran wrote:

Khan_Sama wrote:

Anyway, I belong to no sect.

Do you believe that spiritual progress is possible outside Islam or even for people who don't belong to a recognized religion?

No opinion.

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14 Oct 2008, 10:13 pm

The only reason I can conclude on about the violence of the extremists is that it's in their blood. The Arab people are the descendants of the Mongols, who had the largest empire in history, all gained in war.

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14 Oct 2008, 10:59 pm

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Ignoring everything else for the time being, the Arabs are not the descendants of the Mongols.

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14 Oct 2008, 11:07 pm

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LOL

And by the way

LOL

How many wars has Mongolia fought in the last hundred years?

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