MILF Drill Sargeant discharged after posing for playboy

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Read all about it here: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,252041,00.html

AFAIC this bring up some serious issues about women in the military. But honesty, I cannot see how ANY self-respecting man could take an attractive female sargeant seriously....talk about being bad for morale! If I had some cute blonde bimbo screaming at me I dont think I could resist the urge to crack a joke about her having chronic PMS . Call me a "chauvinist pig" but if a woman in the military wants to be taken seriously, she better act like a MAN(or at least look like a bulldyke ). Sexism(and misogyny) has a long history in the military and the plain truth is that it helps maintain morale and instill the fighting spirit necessary to win wars. I have mixed feelings about gays in the military but those effete so-called fags are the ones that give gays a bad name and are certainly to blame for why gays and lesbians are excluded. But I dont see why tough bulldykes are disqualified just cos they're women who like women.....

I have one thing to say...

Stop getting your "news" from that opinion column. Seriously...

As someone who is taught by attractive female drill sargents* its not that hard to take them seriously. The trick is to think with your head, and think of them as people.

* Not military training, horseriding lessons, but some of the instructors come pretty close when teaching, as for attractive; due to their carer they're very healthy and that's good for looks, apart from that no better and no worse than anywhere else.

So, Haliphron, in one short post you reveal that you are a homophobe, a bigot, and sexist! Well, at least you're efficient...

BTW, since the USAF segregates training flights by gender, this sergeant would seldom have found herself in the position of giving orders to male trainees - and any who saw anything but a full set of stripes would deserve the extra duty anyway.

attennnnn-shunn!!

Just exactly how am I a "homophobe" DeaconBlues?
In certain regards I will admit that I *am* rather sexist but homophobia and sexism do not equate nor imply one another.
NOT all gay guys are effeminate and not all lesbians are butch! One could argue that effeminate men(and women)are the ones who shouldnt be in the Armed Forces and that if a woman wants to serve in the military she'd better act as masculine as possible.

Ok, but only because you insist.

You know it's funny how time and cultural views differ of what it means to be qualified to serve in the military and overseas. I mean at one time Greece actually encouraged homos to fight in their armies.

As for effeminate....hmmm......









Yeah, they got no use being there....

-Or whatever effeminate means in your book Haliphron...

I wasnt implying that women should be excluded from the US Military entirely. BTW, I know quite well that the (ancient)greek army encouraged homosexuals to fight in their ranks, BUT, you are assuming that such gay greek soldiers were the effete, limp-wristed pantywaists that constitute the modern gay stereotype and the evidence suggests that they were at all. Many women tend to be indirect, non-confrontational, and not physically violent. That why women resort to manipulation and catty social games as means of competing instead of swaggering and fist fights. Women's sexuality, as well as the fact that they can and do get preggo can create major problems for morale; AND unfortunately, some women are affected by PMS such that they have difficult concentrating/low energy which hinder combat performance.

Nope, didn't mention or assume any of that.



If this is true, then my aunt should've been a casualty over at the dessert storm.

As for women not being nonconfrontational or physically violent and catty or whatever, I don't think they all fit into that label but even if they did, it wouldn't take much just to shoot a gun or an automatic. And yes women have known to be just as violent as men.

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This is twice you have mentioned PMS. I have always found it interesting that experimental psychology shows PMS to be a myth. I think some men are equally affected by the psychosomatic manifestations of female PMS. But anyway...Your last post made yourself a little more clear on your point...specifically combat. I would have to agree a woman would need a certain edge to be fit for combat. Although, I see nothing wrong with being pretty. Some girls cannot help but be pretty.

Oh no!! !!

There actually are some very good reasons for excluding women from combat units, that have nothing to do with sexism. It has to do with unit discipline and moral, allowing women into the units introduces a sexual tension and set of issues that could be deadly in a combat situation when instinct takes over. It's another of those situations where political correctness has won out over reality, our military is not stronger for having women in the front line, it gains nothing and loses effectiveness for the sake of "equality". Even if women in general had the same physical abilities as men, which they do not, they still do not have a place in combat units because of the difficulties that their presence will cause. Fair it is not, but fairness has no place in war.

You mean men can't control themselves or are taught not to?



Such as?



That sounds more like an opinion rather than a fact since many women have served in the military successfully including my aunt.

We should also bring up a point that not all men qualify either for either being homosexual (sexual tension) or are not "strong" enough.

There are a variety of services one can qualify in the army if given the right and can meet with the pertaining criteria.

Thats not true. Israel manages mixed sex units quite well. So do some other countries. Whatever sexual issues arise dont seem to cause that much strife.

The only units in which female physiology presents as a deficit is infantry. There is nothing about tank crews, air force, navy that strength is that critical. Only in the marines and infantry would female soldiers not pull equal weight.

Israel has a LOT of internal problems with its military because of the fact that it is coed by Necessity. They need EVERY able bodies person to defend the country they can possible get ahold of. I totally agree with what Dox47 said; and he managed to say it more objectively than I did. But Claire333, for a woman in the military to be pretty she will create sexual tension than can jeapordize combat readiness and morale-even if she doesnt intend to. AND it doesnt suit combat units that are set in for a long tour of duty if one of their female members gets knocked up.