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30 Apr 2010, 4:56 am

The only trouble with proof for the psychic is that it cannot really be proved physically and the reasonable can find alternative answers to what happened because they don't want to believe and that is their right.



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30 Apr 2010, 1:49 pm

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*****This is not a debate thread, rather it is going under the region topic . So please no debating or asking for proof.
thanks! ****

This is a thread for you psychics out there on the wrong planet.

List you ability's ones you actually have. Even if they only happened once as a freak occurrence.

Also feel free to speculate how you managed to do them .

I'll go first with my more believable ones.

I'm psychic I can feel what people are feeling (empathic). I can read faces (I will explain that one if asked). I can talk to trees if I want to. I can communicate with animals.
And connect to "the grid" as the indigo's call it to communicate with people consciously or unconsciously.

Among other things which I may add later.

I speculate I am able to do these things By picking up on the electromagnetic frequency that everything gives off and being able to send and receive information that way.

but that's just my theory. :wink:


You place nonsense on a public board and expect not to be challenged?

There is no ESP. It is physically impossible. The brain does not generate enough energy to transmit information directly, skull to skull. A physical intermediary must be used. Brain energy has to be amplified through muscular work to transmit information.

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Then explain spooky action at a distance, ruveyn, as you seem to feel qualified in all subjects from science to politics to social dynamics to advanced physics. Not all posts require refutation, and it is shameful to me to observe your responses in those situations.


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30 Apr 2010, 5:26 pm

makuranososhi wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
just-me wrote:
*****This is not a debate thread, rather it is going under the region topic . So please no debating or asking for proof.
thanks! ****

This is a thread for you psychics out there on the wrong planet.

List you ability's ones you actually have. Even if they only happened once as a freak occurrence.

Also feel free to speculate how you managed to do them .

I'll go first with my more believable ones.

I'm psychic I can feel what people are feeling (empathic). I can read faces (I will explain that one if asked). I can talk to trees if I want to. I can communicate with animals.
And connect to "the grid" as the indigo's call it to communicate with people consciously or unconsciously.

Among other things which I may add later.

I speculate I am able to do these things By picking up on the electromagnetic frequency that everything gives off and being able to send and receive information that way.

but that's just my theory. :wink:


You place nonsense on a public board and expect not to be challenged?

There is no ESP. It is physically impossible. The brain does not generate enough energy to transmit information directly, skull to skull. A physical intermediary must be used. Brain energy has to be amplified through muscular work to transmit information.

ruveyn


Then explain spooky action at a distance, ruveyn, as you seem to feel qualified in all subjects from science to politics to social dynamics to advanced physics. Not all posts require refutation, and it is shameful to me to observe your responses in those situations.


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Spooky action explained in American (Television in plain English with enough humour to keep anyone's attention)

Penn & Teller Bulls***!(link)
Season 1, Episode 10 ESP
Season 3, Episode 10 Ghostbusters

I've yet to find a refutation that ruveyn has made that wasn't against something that's just wrong.



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30 Apr 2010, 5:53 pm

I'm not a psychic or anything rather bogus like that,

but I talk with birds and sometimes they talk back. Parakeets/budgies, black capped chickadees, grackles, and cockatiels are usually the most talkative.



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30 Apr 2010, 8:23 pm

just-me wrote:
*****This is not a debate thread, rather it is going under the region topic . So please no debating or asking for proof.
thanks! ****


Asmodeus wrote:
Spooky action explained in American (Television in plain English with enough humour to keep anyone's attention)

Penn & Teller Bulls***!(link)
Season 1, Episode 10 ESP
Season 3, Episode 10 Ghostbusters

I've yet to find a refutation that ruveyn has made that wasn't against something that's just wrong.


When an OP states upfront that it is discussion and not debate, it is considered good form to respect that although no one 'mandates' the content of their responses. However, I rarely find these 'refutations' sound on any basis other than opinion - an absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, as the saying going - and inherently biased. However, we're each entitled to an opinion; to quote another moderator's signature, it is the concept that others are not only entitled but obligated to share it that is bothersome.


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01 May 2010, 2:19 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
I'm not a psychic or anything rather bogus like that,

but I talk with birds and sometimes they talk back. Parakeets/budgies, black capped chickadees, grackles, and cockatiels are usually the most talkative.


When my cat still was in the land of the living, we talked to each other and we even batted a ball or a crumpled up piece of paper back and forth for our amusement.

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01 May 2010, 7:49 am

ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
I'm not a psychic or anything rather bogus like that,

but I talk with birds and sometimes they talk back. Parakeets/budgies, black capped chickadees, grackles, and cockatiels are usually the most talkative.


When my cat still was in the land of the living, we talked to each other and we even batted a ball or a crumpled up piece of paper back and forth for our amusement.

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And mine played "tag" many years ago.


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03 May 2010, 2:20 pm

makuranososhi wrote:
just-me wrote:
*****This is not a debate thread, rather it is going under the region topic . So please no debating or asking for proof.
thanks! ****


Asmodeus wrote:
Spooky action explained in American (Television in plain English with enough humour to keep anyone's attention)

Penn & Teller Bulls***!(link)
Season 1, Episode 10 ESP
Season 3, Episode 10 Ghostbusters

I've yet to find a refutation that ruveyn has made that wasn't against something that's just wrong.


When an OP states upfront that it is discussion and not debate, it is considered good form to respect that although no one 'mandates' the content of their responses. However, I rarely find these 'refutations' sound on any basis other than opinion - an absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, as the saying going - and inherently biased. However, we're each entitled to an opinion; to quote another moderator's signature, it is the concept that others are not only entitled but obligated to share it that is bothersome.


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I contributed to the OP on page 6 in a form fitting with the proposed mandate ("List you ability's ones you actually have. Even if they only happened once as a freak occurrence."), alongside some evidence ("Also feel free to speculate how you managed to do them."). The later response I made was to a refutation already made, but incidentally also fits with "Also feel free to speculate how you managed to do them", given the show mentioned goes deeper into the methods I had previously described, and in doing so reveals that some of these methods can indeed be both learned and to a degree exploited, though the morals of using such abilities for personal gain would be another matter entirely.
So do you have any abilities?



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03 May 2010, 2:34 pm

Abilities? I wouldn't say so. I 'hear' tensions, but that tends to be the result of musical background and sensory displacement. When my little sister died (was 4), I was asleep but dreamt that I was at home, completely empty, with every bed made but hers. I don't consider myself imbued with any special 'ability' though. Perhaps just a different awareness.


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05 May 2010, 12:46 am

Once in a while I get an 'intuitive vibe' about something, and later it proves true.

One example is the space shuttle challenger.
I had a one of these vibes a little before the crash.
It didnt surprise me when I heard the news about it , as I said to myself , I knew it!

I just think this was 'probability factoring' in my head is all.
They were getting sloppy and the weather wasn't right for the launch, along with a long span of nothingness ,and also adding a civilian in the mix .

When I get these I tend to take heed, as ignoring them has burned me in the past , whatever that may be.
This is just pattern recognition ^.



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05 May 2010, 2:48 am

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Once in a while I get an 'intuitive vibe' about something, and later it proves true.



We all have hunches. The hunch is the brain at work in a manner that cannot be well described in a verbal manner. Many people who have a high regard for their hunches have not kept careful count of the times their hunches were wrong. This reluctance to track one's errors is called Observer Bias. It is a common human failing. We also suffer from it to one degree or another. Scientifically trained people, because of the discipline probably suffer observer bias to the least degree.

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06 May 2010, 2:51 am

I have the ability to perceive reality by combining the input of the senses with logic.


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12 May 2010, 3:00 am

Mdyar wrote:
Once in a while I get an 'intuitive vibe' about something, and later it proves true.

One example is the space shuttle challenger.
I had a one of these vibes a little before the crash.
It didnt surprise me when I heard the news about it , as I said to myself , I knew it!

I just think this was 'probability factoring' in my head is all.
They were getting sloppy and the weather wasn't right for the launch, along with a long span of nothingness ,and also adding a civilian in the mix .

When I get these I tend to take heed, as ignoring them has burned me in the past , whatever that may be.


How well do you keep track when your hunches are wrong?

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12 May 2010, 10:13 am

Hey Ruveyn

Oh , I can be wrong with it , but its right too many times , and chances are I'm better off not ignoring it.
Obviously the thing with the space shuttle was just a fluke , albeit an eerie one at that, but I do wonder what made think in that mode of thought.

It's interesting about that 'observer bias' , and it made me think of a statement by Bertrand Russell -as he once commented "he cant understand how people can be so cocksure about everything", but I don't remember the context of this.
Im sure he did as he had very fine mind .