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03 Dec 2010, 7:05 am

If liberals/leftists want to be truly tolerant, than they must learn to tolerate Moderates, fascists, racists, conservatives, republicans, christians, etc.



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03 Dec 2010, 7:05 am

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Well if you force tolerance of social liberalism you can't tolerate rigid strict religious people and vice versa. It is my opinion that you can't have both and need to comprise on one to give the other what they want. i think people want to fool themselves otherwise because life would be so much simpler. i wish it was not that way though but i dont see either side backing down.


There is room for both, just as long as neither side tramples on people's civil liberties.

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If liberals/leftists want to be truly tolerant, than they must learn to tolerate Moderates, fascists, racists, conservatives, republicans, christians, etc.


And you're mistaken if you think that liberals are the only intolerant group. There are bigoted factions all over the political spectrum.



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03 Dec 2010, 11:47 am

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Conservatives are for individual liberty, that means Government has no business telling us what to eat, what opinions to have, etc.

The locations that you got that information from either are misinformed or they outright lied to you.

Word of advice: "Don't drink the Kool-aide."


Am I the only one who is amused by the irony of Inuyasha's "word of advice?"

It's a bit rich to tell petitesouris not to drink the Kool-aide (sic) when you, yourself, appear to be a pretty heavy Kool-aid drinker yourself.

Word of advice: Listening to Rush Limbaugh and watching Fox News is not research. ;)


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03 Dec 2010, 11:51 am

Descartes wrote:
Mutate wrote:
Well if you force tolerance of social liberalism you can't tolerate rigid strict religious people and vice versa. It is my opinion that you can't have both and need to comprise on one to give the other what they want. i think people want to fool themselves otherwise because life would be so much simpler. i wish it was not that way though but i dont see either side backing down.


There is room for both, just as long as neither side tramples on people's civil liberties.


There is more danger of liberals trampling on people's rights than conservatives doing so.

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If liberals/leftists want to be truly tolerant, than they must learn to tolerate Moderates, fascists, racists, conservatives, republicans, christians, etc.


And you're mistaken if you think that liberals are the only intolerant group. There are bigoted factions all over the political spectrum.


russell used a bad example because liberals tolerate racism, facism, etc. if it is along their line of thinking. Liberals are pro-free speech only when they agree with what is being said. Conservatives either ignore a racist as just another nut or do their best to make sure they don't get into office. Liberals make them Senate Majority Leader.



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03 Dec 2010, 11:56 am

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Word of advice: Listening to Rush Limbaugh and watching Fox News is not research. ;)


But he also verifies that on reputable conservative blog sites like hotair.com!!


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03 Dec 2010, 12:00 pm

So what are you talking about with "Kool-aid", surely it's not about the brand of juices... (Unless there is fluorine as a communist plot against our "precious body fluids" :lol: )

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03 Dec 2010, 12:00 pm

i know that left people are intolerant of Christians. i think its foolish as not all christians are aligned with capitalists or imperialism even if it is associalted with those. Also Christianity and Islam are so similar it seems unfair to bash the creationism, sexism, rigidity of one but tolerate it in the other. i know thats just what all the US facists are saying though.



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03 Dec 2010, 12:24 pm

visagrunt wrote:
Word of advice: Listening to Rush Limbaugh and watching Fox News is not research. ;)


When you can backtrack Limbaugh and Fox News reporting to the original source and can verify from that source (or usually sources) that they are reporting accurately based on the original source, then I hate to break it to you what they say then has credibility.

The people that have no credibility are media outlets on the left.

Does 2004's Memogate mean anything to you?

Okay I'll give you a refresher, CBS News used forged documents to try to smear President George W. Bush. I can say with certainty the documents were forged because it used a font style that didn't exist at the time these documents were supposedly made and had variable space typing which is only found on modern computers. CBS News continued to try to vouch for the authenticity of these documents and tried to keep it so that people couldn't view these documents for themselves and make their own determination. In the end however, they were forced to admit they couldn't verify the authenticity and they still kept claiming the story was true.

I'm recalling the incident entirely from memory btw.

2006

Media outlets involved: Reuters. AP, New York Times, CBS, BBC, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, PBS... Also included whatever Canadian outlets you have.

Used Doctored Photos to Accuse Israelis during the Israeli/Lebannon conflict of war crimes. Some of these photos were so blatently doctored that I could do a better job in 5 minutes.

Fox News was one of the few places that did not use those photos and in fact had a field day humiliating the other networks. Apparently the Fox News tech staff took one look at the pictures and thought it was a kind of sick joke.


2008
Media worshipping Barack Obama and not vetting him at all. They instead proceed to conduct witch hunts attacking Sarah Palin. It is also found out later that reporters were also in some cases coordinating with the Obama campaign to attack Palin.

Additionally, the New York Times ended up being sued (and they lost the suit) by a woman they claimed was having an affair with Senator John McCain. It goes without saying the story was bogus.

2009-2010+
Attacking the teaparty and constantly trying to claim they are racists or dangerous to this country. Any smear tactic they could think of they tried.

Journ'O'list is uncovered, reporters from Politico, Huffington Post, etc. are among the people named whom were coordinating attacks on Palin (they still have their jobs btw)

2010
Reports up in Alaska (I believe from a CBS affiliate) got caught on tape talking about trying to associate Republican Candidate Joe Miller with Child Molestors.


Now you want to tell me I should take their word on anything over Fox News when they have a track record of lieing and outright deceit as well as directly working with a political campaign to help smear an opponent.

visagrunt, I'm just giving examples that I can recall from memory I'm sure there are quite a few others that I have missed and the complete Journ'O'list still hasn't been uncovered. Excuse me but I'm not going to believe known pathological liars and propagandists. As far as I'm concerned Fox News and Rush Limbaugh have better track records. Hell, the National Enquirer has a better track record than the places you are telling me to take as the gospel truth.



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03 Dec 2010, 12:25 pm

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russell used a bad example because liberals tolerate racism, facism, etc. if it is along their line of thinking.


^ Not really a bad example........

Most liberal academics acknowledge and describe racism and fascism as being purely conservative preserves. With their definition I agree.

Yet, many leftists certainly practice reverse-racism against white people, and incorporate many components of fascism and authoritarianism into their thinking. Most times they attempt to refute any charges of reverse-fascist leanings they may have by painting fascism as purely a spectacle of the far-right. "How can we be fascists when we are so zealously anti-fascist?"

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Liberals are pro-free speech only when they agree with what is being said.


I agree with this part. Liberals usually only tolerate what is on their spectrum.

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And you're mistaken if you think that liberals are the only intolerant group. There are bigoted factions all over the political spectrum.


^ I certainly don't, but liberals try and hypocritically hide it more and take that "better than thou" stance.



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03 Dec 2010, 12:26 pm

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So what are you talking about with "Kool-aid", surely it's not about the brand of juices... (Unless there is fluorine as a communist plot against our "precious body fluids" :lol: )


its an idiom that means swallowing whatever your chosen authority tells you. it comes from a time a religious cult made members commit suicide with poisoned kool aid.



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03 Dec 2010, 12:28 pm

@ russell

leftists practice racism, there is no such thing as reverse racism. It is just the racism is directed towards whites instead of some other group.



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03 Dec 2010, 12:28 pm

Jim Jones.



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03 Dec 2010, 12:33 pm

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Jim Jones.


Whom was also originally a member of the American Communist Party until they started criticizing people like Joseph Stalin.



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03 Dec 2010, 12:40 pm

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leftists practice racism, there is no such thing as reverse racism. It is just the racism is directed towards whites instead of some other group.


^ Right, but the liberal line is that Racism is a purely rightist construct. Leftists can not be racists as the Right-Wing has already taken that label. The definition of 'racism' was formulated by leftist professors, communist jews, hardcore socialists and psychiatrists, etc.

The thinking is, "How can we be racist when we are so zealously anti-racist?"

In fighting the racists with such severe zealotry over the last several decades, the Leftists and multiculturalists imposed concepts like PC, diversity propaganda, shortlists, and sensitivity training. From this overkill of effort to stamp out racism, the diversity-Left has become the very same enemy that they seek to destroy. The Leftists have themselves become the new racists with the initiative, and the old Right-Wing racists have become the repressed underground seeking tolerance for themselves. The Left has waged war so relentlessly against racists and has driven them out of the consensus so completely, that the Left has become the corrupt establishment throwing its weight about, imposing conformity and its will with reverse-racist and fascist principles.

Attacking right-wing racists now has about all the grace of whacking a fly with a sledgehammer, or an elephant trying to stomp an ant.

Racists have been so completely driven out of public life that it makes anti-racist measures seem hollow and superfluous. Further multicultural propaganda seems nothing but pathetic and contrived because diversity is triumphing so completely in the West.



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03 Dec 2010, 1:48 pm

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If liberals/leftists want to be truly tolerant, than they must learn to tolerate Moderates, fascists, racists, conservatives, republicans, christians, etc.


I wouldn't say tolerating and looking the other way at intolerance is in fact tolerant.


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03 Dec 2010, 2:15 pm

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I wouldn't say tolerating and looking the other way at intolerance is in fact tolerant.


What is the plan to cure or dispose of racists? Liquidation?

Brainwashing?

Chemical Castration?