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26 Feb 2011, 10:52 pm

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I'm female, and gay, and I totally agree with what Skafather is saying

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It's not extra rights. It's called protection from abusive pieces of sh** like you that f***ing harass normal people who want to be able to find some f***ing help and someone to confide in.

Maybe you should worry about your life more if you're really so bad off that you're picking on the LGBT crowd for having "extra rights" that aren't there.


I don't really think you're abusive though. Just totally misguided.


I think he's being abusive in a more subtle way. If he's asking in earnest....I still have to wonder what he thinks is so special that he's missing out to the point of a necessary complaint.


I'm new on this site, and I have difficulty believing that he is for real. I can't help feeling that he is just having a great big joke at mine, and possibly your expense.

I honestly hope that I'm right. I think it would be pretty sad if he is for real, and he spends his time getting upset at the fact that women and gays have seperate sub-fora on WP, while straight white men don't :lol:


Thats funny, considering the amount of time you've spent on some of your chosen subjects.


You do kinda have a point there, although I have admitted that when I first joined the site I was really just winding up Parakeet :lol:

While I took him seriously, and felt that he believed what he was saying, I do have a funny feeling that you're just on the wind-up :lol:



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26 Feb 2011, 10:54 pm

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Why isn't there a straight and non tranny forum? Because they aren't minorities. Face it, minorities will have special consideration. I'm not saying they should have special rights which I think is BS, but it is only fitting for em to have special consideration since they are discriminated against.


Exactly. I don't want special rights, and I certainly don't get them. Having a womans forum makes sense. Having a guys forum might also make sense, but from what I've read it wasn't a success when you did have one.
I can see reasons for not having a LGBT forum, but jealousy does not seem like a sound reason. Maybe the fact that it isn't used very much might be a sound reason, although that's not to say that it isn't a big help to some people.


how about a mens forum that does not GBT only L?

-Jake


That sounds just as good to me as it does to you :wink:



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26 Feb 2011, 10:54 pm

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Why isn't there a straight and non tranny forum? Because they aren't minorities. Face it, minorities will have special consideration. I'm not saying they should have special rights which I think is BS, but it is only fitting for em to have special consideration since they are discriminated against.


Exactly. I don't want special rights, and I certainly don't get them. Having a womans forum makes sense. Having a guys forum might also make sense, but from what I've read it wasn't a success when you did have one.
I can see reasons for not having a LGBT forum, but jealousy does not seem like a sound reason. Maybe the fact that it isn't used very much might be a sound reason, although that's not to say that it isn't a big help to some people.


Surely the LGBT people are jealous of the people who they see as not being descriminated against? I'll remind you again, its not jealousy. Its getting fed up with double standards.


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26 Feb 2011, 10:56 pm

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Why isn't there a straight and non tranny forum? Because they aren't minorities. Face it, minorities will have special consideration. I'm not saying they should have special rights which I think is BS, but it is only fitting for em to have special consideration since they are discriminated against.


Exactly. I don't want special rights, and I certainly don't get them. Having a womans forum makes sense. Having a guys forum might also make sense, but from what I've read it wasn't a success when you did have one.
I can see reasons for not having a LGBT forum, but jealousy does not seem like a sound reason. Maybe the fact that it isn't used very much might be a sound reason, although that's not to say that it isn't a big help to some people.


how about a mens forum that does not GBT only L?

-Jake


We can't have it all.


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26 Feb 2011, 10:57 pm

Butterflies wrote:
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Butterflies wrote:
I'm female, and gay, and I totally agree with what Skafather is saying

Skafather wrote:
It's not extra rights. It's called protection from abusive pieces of sh** like you that f***ing harass normal people who want to be able to find some f***ing help and someone to confide in.

Maybe you should worry about your life more if you're really so bad off that you're picking on the LGBT crowd for having "extra rights" that aren't there.


I don't really think you're abusive though. Just totally misguided.


I think he's being abusive in a more subtle way. If he's asking in earnest....I still have to wonder what he thinks is so special that he's missing out to the point of a necessary complaint.


I'm new on this site, and I have difficulty believing that he is for real. I can't help feeling that he is just having a great big joke at mine, and possibly your expense.

I honestly hope that I'm right. I think it would be pretty sad if he is for real, and he spends his time getting upset at the fact that women and gays have seperate sub-fora on WP, while straight white men don't :lol:


Thats funny, considering the amount of time you've spent on some of your chosen subjects.


You do kinda have a point there, although I have admitted that when I first joined the site I was really just winding up Parakeet :lol:

While I took him seriously, and felt that he believed what he was saying, I do have a funny feeling that you're just on the wind-up :lol:


Lol, i'm not on the wind up. Its probably cause I say some things that need to be taken with a pinch of salt. But i'm serious about my point.


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26 Feb 2011, 10:58 pm

Butterflies wrote:
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Why isn't there a straight and non tranny forum? Because they aren't minorities. Face it, minorities will have special consideration. I'm not saying they should have special rights which I think is BS, but it is only fitting for em to have special consideration since they are discriminated against.


Exactly. I don't want special rights, and I certainly don't get them. Having a womans forum makes sense. Having a guys forum might also make sense, but from what I've read it wasn't a success when you did have one.
I can see reasons for not having a LGBT forum, but jealousy does not seem like a sound reason. Maybe the fact that it isn't used very much might be a sound reason, although that's not to say that it isn't a big help to some people.


how about a mens forum that does not GBT only L?

-Jake


That sounds just as good to me as it does to you :wink:


ohh I meant that the other way round. a L only forum would be the complement of what I meant.
I meant GBT.
or perhaps a S male, B and L forum you know for folks that enjoy sleeping with women.
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26 Feb 2011, 11:01 pm

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Why isn't there a straight and non tranny forum? Because they aren't minorities. Face it, minorities will have special consideration. I'm not saying they should have special rights which I think is BS, but it is only fitting for em to have special consideration since they are discriminated against.


Exactly. I don't want special rights, and I certainly don't get them. Having a womans forum makes sense. Having a guys forum might also make sense, but from what I've read it wasn't a success when you did have one.
I can see reasons for not having a LGBT forum, but jealousy does not seem like a sound reason. Maybe the fact that it isn't used very much might be a sound reason, although that's not to say that it isn't a big help to some people.


Surely the LGBT people are jealous of the people who they see as not being descriminated against? I'll remind you again, its not jealousy. Its getting fed up with double standards.


AS affects mostly men. Why do you have a problem with a forum where women can discuss menstrual flow, shaving intimate body hair, physical differences during pregnancy, hormone issues, hairstyles etc. Many women feel awkward discussing that in a forum where men are likely to respond? Do you really feel a need to be involved in that? I have no issue with a mens forum BTW. It seems that it was tried, and failed.



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26 Feb 2011, 11:11 pm

Yes.
We should have a forum only for non-transexual, and straight people which excludes anyone else.

And There should a paralell version of this whole site called "Right Planet" just for neurotypicals.

People on the spectrum should be banned from this "Right Planet Site".

Hey -why should only autistics and aspies be "catered to"?

Anyone on the spectrum who attempts to enter this 'Right Planet" site should be shot on sight.

Okay- "Right Planet" would be for "Neurotypicals and People Who Love Them".
So if you are on the spectrum but have relatives or a lover who is Neurotypical then you would be allowed to visit and post on "Right Planet". Anyone who can contribute to supporting normal people adjust to their normalness and to conquer their normalness in order to fit into and function in the normal world should be allowed to visit "RIght Planet"- but no one else!



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26 Feb 2011, 11:14 pm

what exactly are these special rights?



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26 Feb 2011, 11:20 pm

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I agree that minorites should have equal rights, but not more rights.


(That from the first post in this thread.)

This isn't an issue of rights. They don't have any more rights than others. They simply have a gathering place. There's no need for a heterosexual aspie gathering space. "We need one because they have one" isn't a good argument.


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26 Feb 2011, 11:25 pm

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extra rights if you're one of these "minorites" on the site.


It's not extra rights. It's called protection from...


Protection? I don't see that. There's no guarantee that someone won't go in and post nasty stuff. There's no guarantee if someone does that a moderator will see it and delete it before anyone else sees it (actually quite unlikely). It does mean that those who are negative to LGBTs and/or who aren't LGBT will know they are outsiders when posting there, if they are paying attention to what forum they are in (which isn't guaranteed).


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26 Feb 2011, 11:30 pm

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You all do realize that if we added a men's forum another group would be right behind you complaining about a forum they want, right? Making the same arguments you are making now, just as upset as you are now.


It depends on the request. Not all requests are reasonable, but a request for a man's forum is just as reasonable as a request for woman's forum. Do you agree with that?


Depends on the reason. "Men should have a forum because women do" is not a reasonable request. It's selfish and petty. Requesting a men's forum because there are men's issues that people want to discuss, and will discuss if there's such a forum, that's a reasonable request.


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26 Feb 2011, 11:34 pm

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This is an aspie board. Let's be honest, basically the whole forum is a men's board. There's a couple women here and there but for the most part, it's all men. Any particular male needs that are "men's needs" can be posted in either the section dealing with social interaction or the adults only section where one can ask more adult questions about sex and what not.


You are joking, right?


For active members, there's more male than female. You're gonna contend there's more female than male on here?


Not joking, just grossly exaggerating. If there were only a couple women here, there'd only be, at most, one woman using the women's forum, being as I don't use it. And probably, thus, no reason for the forum.


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26 Feb 2011, 11:35 pm

Mysty wrote:
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You all do realize that if we added a men's forum another group would be right behind you complaining about a forum they want, right? Making the same arguments you are making now, just as upset as you are now.


It depends on the request. Not all requests are reasonable, but a request for a man's forum is just as reasonable as a request for woman's forum. Do you agree with that?


Depends on the reason. "Men should have a forum because women do" is not a reasonable request. It's selfish and petty. Requesting a men's forum because there are men's issues that people want to discuss, and will discuss if there's such a forum, that's a reasonable request.


In what way is it selfish and petty? I thought men and women were on an equal level ... therefore equal rights?



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26 Feb 2011, 11:38 pm

murphycop wrote:
Butterflies wrote:
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Why isn't there a straight and non tranny forum? Because they aren't minorities. Face it, minorities will have special consideration. I'm not saying they should have special rights which I think is BS, but it is only fitting for em to have special consideration since they are discriminated against.


Exactly. I don't want special rights, and I certainly don't get them. Having a womans forum makes sense. Having a guys forum might also make sense, but from what I've read it wasn't a success when you did have one.
I can see reasons for not having a LGBT forum, but jealousy does not seem like a sound reason. Maybe the fact that it isn't used very much might be a sound reason, although that's not to say that it isn't a big help to some people.


Surely the LGBT people are jealous of the people who they see as not being descriminated against? I'll remind you again, its not jealousy. Its getting fed up with double standards.


I doubt it , you quite clearly are homophobic and yet you are either trying to mask it or you don't recognise it yourself.
Why else would you put so much effort into declaring the GLBT community are getting "special treatment".

I think you know very little of this subject and should quit while you're ahead (or behind) :roll:



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26 Feb 2011, 11:42 pm

MCalavera wrote:
Mysty wrote:
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You all do realize that if we added a men's forum another group would be right behind you complaining about a forum they want, right? Making the same arguments you are making now, just as upset as you are now.


It depends on the request. Not all requests are reasonable, but a request for a man's forum is just as reasonable as a request for woman's forum. Do you agree with that?


Depends on the reason. "Men should have a forum because women do" is not a reasonable request. It's selfish and petty. Requesting a men's forum because there are men's issues that people want to discuss, and will discuss if there's such a forum, that's a reasonable request.


In what way is it selfish and petty? I thought men and women were on an equal level ... therefore equal rights?


I have no problem with a mens forum. As far as I know it's been tried and failed though. Guys very often seek female interaction at any opportunity, especially aspie guys, whereas females often try and find a bit of privacy away from guys.