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fromtheold
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30 Apr 2011, 4:16 am

How to teach the Gospel to children with autism?
I'm not a troll, I want a serioius answer if anyone has one.



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30 Apr 2011, 4:38 am

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30 Apr 2011, 5:10 am

hill-o-beans wrote:
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Rudeness.



OP I don't know about teaching the Gospel to your child. Hopefully someone with something more helpful to say will come along soon.



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30 Apr 2011, 5:12 am

OP, if you want help you should pose specific questions. The one you have posed is far too broad.

Also, it's very possible to raise an Autistic child to believe in whatever religion you choose.


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30 Apr 2011, 5:13 am

I imagine you are a troll, but just in case...

no-one should tell their kid a man was nailed to a piece of wood for his sins, because he's fundamentally bad and that if he doesn't follow your brand of christianity he will be burnt alive for eternity. It's just sick. If he wants to believe that himself, fine. But don't force the stuff down a gullible child's neck; it's abusing their inherent trust in the accuracy of what you tell him


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30 Apr 2011, 6:38 am

If the kid is too disabled to do the steps to become a christian, I don't think it's going to be committing any sins bad enough to need the gospel during its life.



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30 Apr 2011, 6:46 am

I agree with Ryan. Too bad the OP will likely not take it into consideration.



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30 Apr 2011, 7:38 am

Child abuse!

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30 Apr 2011, 8:20 am

religion should wait till the child can understand at least the basic concepts in full.

@ryan: misuse of trust was a very nice way of explaining it.


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30 Apr 2011, 8:23 am

It's best to teach it to them as a child cause when they're Old and Wise they'll say: it's the same f..king story as Osiris!



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30 Apr 2011, 8:43 am

Not really either Osiris or Tammuz; there are important differences. A touch of Quetzalcoatl, perhaps, for one.

Be that as it may:

Is it for you or me to decide [opinions are one thing] what should / should not be taught another's child? Let him who knows all and only absolute truth cast the first stone.

But be THAT as it may.

As to the original query, much depends on the child and as much depends on the parent. My own wishful anarchist lifelong educator suggestion would be, at an age and time in thast age that feels right, proffer the information you would like to communicate. Present data, leave time for digestuion, respond to queries, explain and listen [the child may understand things about the gospel you never got - it happens.

Whether it be the gospel or Darwinian evolution, or music or natural law, there is very little beyond the alphabet and the multiplication table that is there to be "learned". Nearly all knowledge needs to be explored and understood. You be a resource, the child will do the analysis.



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30 Apr 2011, 9:07 am

If the child was born too autistic to understand speech, it just needs to be beaten with rods every day untill the message of its original sin it was born with gets through to the little monster.

seriously though, I saw severly disabled people, helped through baptism and things. I don't think they understood what they were doing, but I heard they used to get them to squeeze their carers hand to confirm they accepted Jesus and wanted to be baptised. I still think someone that disabled can't sin.



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30 Apr 2011, 10:04 am

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Is it for you or me to decide [opinions are one thing] what should / should not be taught another's child? Let him who knows all and only absolute truth cast the first stone.


Well, lets be honest, it is to some degree. There are some things you could "teach" a child that would qualify as child abuse, and I think that telling a child they will burn for eternity unless they follow your particular brand of a particular God qualifies. It's really disgusting.

Dawkin's had a woman on one of his documentaries who was irreparably scarred by the fear of hell instilled in her at as a child. Her rational mind knows better, but the fear haunts her, because what a parent tells you often sticks for life. Any parent who would do that to their child is a bad parent. Period.


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30 Apr 2011, 10:49 am

fromtheold wrote:
How to teach the Gospel to children with autism?
I'm not a troll, I want a serioius answer if anyone has one.


I don't think this is the best place to ask this question. Maybe try the parenting section?

Also, maybe give some more details. Your question is a bit vague.



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30 Apr 2011, 2:07 pm

While I don't think the idea of hell is too healthy for a child, I will say that that I was raised in the church, and the benefits outweighed the negatives for me. I was diagnosed with Aspergers in middle age and then PDD NOS when I the Psychiatrist found out I had a speech delay until age 4. I wasn't seriously disabled by it, though, compensating factors were stronger in my case.

For me the benefit was more one of routine and structure and the opportunity for social interaction. The Catholic church has plenty of that. Also, I found the multicultural nature of the church more tolerant of differences among people than some of the other churches in my southern small town.

I drifted away as I got older and attempt to understand all views on the subject, but the bias from the positive experience in youth, cannot be separated from my psyche.

This really isn't the best place for advice on the specifics of how to do it; more likely that another parent in the parenting section might have valuable information on that part of it; however this is a good place to listen to other peoples experience of it.

Noone has the same experience of Autism, but it seems here the majority experience and/or opinion of organized religion is a negative one. This might be one of the best places to find out why people feel that way.

I guess for a child that could not tolerate the environment of church, it might have to be done in the home environment. That's really the only objective thing I can think of. And I can't possibly give you advice on whether or not to do it; obviously it works for some and doesn't work for others; that is a decision I'm sure you will make on your own, anyway.



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30 Apr 2011, 3:42 pm

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