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01 Mar 2012, 12:48 pm

SNL did a sketch parodying internet comment trolls.

http://laughingsquid.com/saturday-night ... nt-trolls/



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01 Mar 2012, 1:20 pm

simon_says wrote:
SNL did a sketch parodying internet comment trolls.

http://laughingsquid.com/saturday-night ... nt-trolls/


That was truly funny. If there were only someone to punch trolls in the stomach.

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01 Mar 2012, 7:08 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x83q1c6-Zfo[/youtube]



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08 Mar 2012, 4:51 pm

Cornflake wrote:
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But A.S. is a defect, and I have come to accept that rather than expect the world to change to suit me.
(...)
Homosexuality is a defect, and a healthy society should discriminate against it on those grounds.
Equally applicable to Autism, apparently. Lovely.
Should we be happy your rather oppressive viewpoint says that anything regarded as a "defect" should be discriminated against?


A healthy society would discriminate for and against all kinds of things.
I'm quite convinced most among the suggestible masses who have been taught to celebrate democracy and equality would - within a few years - be as happy or happier in some kind of "right wing", hierarchical society of the sort they've been taught to fear.

But some people are never happy. I would be more interested in the overall health of society than in making sure every last person doesn't have their feelings hurt.
What if you were confronted by a blind man who said he felt unhappy about being "discriminated against" by a society that denied him his right to become an airline pilot?



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08 Mar 2012, 5:07 pm

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What if you were confronted by a blind man who said he felt unhappy about being "discriminated against" by a society that denied him his right to become an airline pilot?
I think you're clutching at straws made of hyperbole.


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08 Mar 2012, 5:27 pm

Cornflake wrote:
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What if you were confronted by a blind man who said he felt unhappy about being "discriminated against" by a society that denied him his right to become an airline pilot?
I think you're clutching at straws made of hyperbole.


No, it was an appropriate response to a childish complaint about "discrimination", as if that were a dirty word.
You are clearly more interested in trying to sound pithy than in trying to understand opposing points of view.



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08 Mar 2012, 5:51 pm

codarac wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
codarac wrote:
What if you were confronted by a blind man who said he felt unhappy about being "discriminated against" by a society that denied him his right to become an airline pilot?
I think you're clutching at straws made of hyperbole.


No, it was an appropriate response to a childish complaint about "discrimination", as if that were a dirty word.
You are clearly more interested in trying to sound pithy than in trying to understand opposing points of view.


And since we're being insulting, you clearly support a paradigm where bigotry and intolerance are permitted and encouraged.



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08 Mar 2012, 6:04 pm

codarac wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
codarac wrote:
What if you were confronted by a blind man who said he felt unhappy about being "discriminated against" by a society that denied him his right to become an airline pilot?
I think you're clutching at straws made of hyperbole.


No, it was an appropriate response to a childish complaint about "discrimination", as if that were a dirty word.
You are clearly more interested in trying to sound pithy than in trying to understand opposing points of view.


You don't really offer much in way of argument to support your view. The truth is there isn't much to understand about your view, because it is a shameful and crude position that is itself the result of little effort at understanding


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08 Mar 2012, 6:19 pm

Vigilans wrote:
codarac wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
codarac wrote:
What if you were confronted by a blind man who said he felt unhappy about being "discriminated against" by a society that denied him his right to become an airline pilot?
I think you're clutching at straws made of hyperbole.


No, it was an appropriate response to a childish complaint about "discrimination", as if that were a dirty word.
You are clearly more interested in trying to sound pithy than in trying to understand opposing points of view.


You don't really offer much in way of argument to support your view. The truth is there isn't much to understand about your view, because it is a shameful and crude position that is itself the result of little effort at understanding


Since our friend codarac apparently feels that his own autism is unwholesome, you have to wonder what kind of self-loathing he feels.

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09 Mar 2012, 12:34 am

codarac wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
codarac wrote:
What if you were confronted by a blind man who said he felt unhappy about being "discriminated against" by a society that denied him his right to become an airline pilot?
I think you're clutching at straws made of hyperbole.


No, it was an appropriate response to a childish complaint about "discrimination", as if that were a dirty word.
You are clearly more interested in trying to sound pithy than in trying to understand opposing points of view.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vQvKpj5ThQ[/youtube]



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09 Mar 2012, 7:39 am

codarac wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
codarac wrote:
What if you were confronted by a blind man who said he felt unhappy about being "discriminated against" by a society that denied him his right to become an airline pilot?
I think you're clutching at straws made of hyperbole.


No, it was an appropriate response to a childish complaint about "discrimination", as if that were a dirty word.
You are clearly more interested in trying to sound pithy than in trying to understand opposing points of view.


People who support equal rights for gays and lesbians understand the opposing point of view better than you think. Sky god says gay sex is a sin. He will destroy us in a rain of fire, like Sodom and Gomorrah back in fairy tale times. And the gay is infectious 8O Just look what it did to its staunchest opponents, such as Ted Haggard. Also, slippery slope ahead! Soon people will want to marry their spider plant, their Xbox, or some boss mob in WoW, and all heterosexual couples will get divorced because hetero marriage is so last year.

We have carefully examined all those points and reached the conclusion that it's utter nonsense. The only result of gay marriage is that gays marry, and finally enjoy the same joint ownership, hospital visitation and medical decision-making rights as other married couples. It won't affect the lives and marriages of other people in any way.



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09 Mar 2012, 8:22 am

Perhaps she'll be dreaming of a 'white' Christmas as well.


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09 Mar 2012, 8:24 am

CrazyCatLord wrote:
codarac wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
codarac wrote:
What if you were confronted by a blind man who said he felt unhappy about being "discriminated against" by a society that denied him his right to become an airline pilot?
I think you're clutching at straws made of hyperbole.


No, it was an appropriate response to a childish complaint about "discrimination", as if that were a dirty word.
You are clearly more interested in trying to sound pithy than in trying to understand opposing points of view.


People who support equal rights for gays and lesbians understand the opposing point of view better than you think. Sky god says gay sex is a sin. He will destroy us in a rain of fire, like Sodom and Gomorrah back in fairy tale times. And the gay is infectious 8O Just look what it did to its staunchest opponents, such as Ted Haggard. Also, slippery slope ahead! Soon people will want to marry their spider plant, their Xbox, or some boss mob in WoW, and all heterosexual couples will get divorced because hetero marriage is so last year.

We have carefully examined all those points and reached the conclusion that it's utter nonsense. The only result of gay marriage is that gays marry, and finally enjoy the same joint ownership, hospital visitation and medical decision-making rights as other married couples. It won't affect the lives and marriages of other people in any way.

Exactly.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeCuHwphU0M[/youtube]



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09 Mar 2012, 8:42 am

Great video :D

Aside from having legalized gay marriage, Denmark is also one of the most gender-equal countries in the world, it is among the top ten countries listed in the quality-of-life index (the USA is on place 13), and it is one of the few European countries with a high enough fertility rate (see below). They are obviously doing something right.

[img][800:517]http://www.dohc.ie/statistics/key_trends/population_and_life_expectancy/figure_1-1.gif[/img]



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09 Mar 2012, 9:10 am

codarac wrote:

No, it was an appropriate response to a childish complaint about "discrimination", as if that were a dirty word.
You are clearly more interested in trying to sound pithy than in trying to understand opposing points of view.


Lets expand a bit upon discrimination then, shall we?

You are a bigot. A healthy society is allowed to discriminate. Bigotry is worthy of being shunned and discriminated against.

Therefore a healthy society should lock you in a little room until you go insane. It would help the society survive and become a better place.


See why discrimination can be a bad thing yet?


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09 Mar 2012, 9:57 am

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Also, slippery slope ahead! Soon people will want to marry their spider plant, their Xbox, or some boss mob in WoW, and all heterosexual couples will get divorced because hetero marriage is so last year.



“New Rule: Gay marriage won't lead to dog marriage. It is not a slippery slope to rampant inter-species coupling. When women got the right to vote, it didn't lead to hamsters voting. No court has extended the Equal Protection Clause to salmon. And for the record, all marriages are same sex marriages. You get married, and every night, it's the same sex.”
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