Is America heading towards fascism?

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So . . . we don't disagree, right?

Thats all semantics. There surely is a compromise between non confrontation and using live ammunition as the first and last recourse.

Was the dead a naive boy with too much bravado and reckless disregard for the consequences of his actions? Yes. Did he deserve to die? No.

I was AT that demonstration PERSONALLY and know for a fact that the Carabineri had access to non lethal forms of riot control.

Unfortunately for you, the escape argument is foiled by the inconvenient factoid that they reversed SEVERAL times over him to repeat the process.

You make my case (thank you). Communism either leads to free-loading or tyranny. Take your choice: carry the moochers and the bums on your back or build the gulags.

ruveyn

To dismiss my argument as semantics is problematic as the threat of lethal force is viewed as justification for using lethal force in most self-defense laws. Having access to non-lethal forms of riot control puts a much higher standard on the officers who were under attack by a bunch of people who cannot behave as civilized human beings, than on the crowd who were behaving not as civilized people do, but like uncivilized savages.

Secondly, naive boys have died from too much bravado and reckless disregard through thousands, tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands of years of human development, I view it as the chlorine that cleans the filth from our collective gene pool.


Unfortunately for you, the escape argument is foiled by the inconvenient factoid that they reversed SEVERAL times over him to repeat the process.[/quote]

I checked the information about the death, and nowhere did it say that he was repeatedly ran over, it also says that the bullet fired was not of the same caliber used by Italian law enforcement.

Communists are called to feed the sheep , not to feed off of the sheep.

Sure, we're like moths to a flame and pull out the Jergins and Viagra everytime we hear the word 'new'. 'New' is like a religious thing to us and since fascism hasn't been tried I'm sure some new party may very well come along and advertise it as the new dashing, sexy, romantic thing.

The are also called to equalize the unequal.

ruveyn

Thomas81, would you rather have communism?

Under communism people are encouraged to keep their abilities but economic distribution is according to needs

Usefulness of the person also tends to come down to how convenient they and their health are.

I can see food/nutrition needs being addressed better through communism, right now we issue food stamps to people who can't afford it and there is a huge incentive purchase unhealthy items with food stamp (longer shelf life, more affordable, better taste). The capability exists to address the nutritional needs of people who can't afford it using only plant based nutrients (unprocessed). This would require less money than currently used on food stamps and actually adress needs that food stamps wouldn't address. The only problem is people are reluctant to make dietary changes and general mills wouldn't be as profitable. I think communism could address basic needs if people would adjust their expectations.

when i was in the army, there was this sergeant-major who was fond of saying that the american military system [of distribution/procurement] was a "communist" system in his view.

I feel America is already fascist under the illusion of democracy. The left-right paradigm is a sham because both parties are controlled by the same special interest groups. Wallstreet will always be the main priority over mainstreet because wallstreet funds these politician's coffers. I feel that America is becoming more socialist, some socialism I see is necessary, but you can't just say "here, have this" without any repercussions. As most people know - our social security has got to the point, where more people take than give into it. It's like this with alot of things, if it creates more debt.. then they should have an outline to fix the problems. To use an analogy - It may be offensive to some, but more accurate - America is like a whore. A revolving door policy, that if you have enough money, you can buy anything.

Actually, the 2012 election gave me some hope for America, after all. The machinations of billionaires to subvert democracy, along with racially based voter suppression proved to be beaten by people power. The American electorate proved they could resist the forces of reaction, no matter how powerful.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

THIS time.

Hopefully, the American people will continue to surprise us.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer