do we REALLY think Syria will use Chemical weapons

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07 Dec 2012, 5:09 pm

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Don't believe the propaganda. Remember the lies we were told about Iraq. Assad is not stupid nor is he crazy, using chemical weapons would be signing his own execution order. Remember Assad was a guy we called a reformer not long before these protests/insurgencies started popping up, The same with Gaddafi before we stuck a knife in his back. Assad isn't going to use chemical weapons, he's putting them on the table to stop inevitable foreign invasion.

Assad is a bad man but so are the terrorists he's fighting against, stay the hell out. There are no good guys.

They're preparing a 100,000 strong invasion force to occupy Syria


Hey Jacoby, you saying Saddam didn't use chemical weapons on people, how about you tell that to the Iraqi Kurds...

Do I think Assad might use chemical weapons? I think it is highly possible, his father did it, what's to stop him from doing it? Why would Russia and China care if he uses chemical weapons or not? Seriously, they wouldn't care.



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07 Dec 2012, 5:22 pm

Jacoby wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
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The White House is looking for an excuse to start another oil war, so you be the judge.


The U.S. gets all the oil it needs from Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Canada and domestic sources.

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It's never enough for the monied interests.


Whatever happened to the promised Iraqi oil?



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07 Dec 2012, 8:23 pm

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Whatever happened to the promised Iraqi oil?

It was the anti-war activists that promised oil.


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08 Dec 2012, 2:30 am

No, some of the Iraq war promoters said that Iraqi oil would pay for it! People inside the Bush Administration.



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08 Dec 2012, 2:43 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Don't believe the propaganda. Remember the lies we were told about Iraq. Assad is not stupid nor is he crazy, using chemical weapons would be signing his own execution order. Remember Assad was a guy we called a reformer not long before these protests/insurgencies started popping up, The same with Gaddafi before we stuck a knife in his back. Assad isn't going to use chemical weapons, he's putting them on the table to stop inevitable foreign invasion.

Assad is a bad man but so are the terrorists he's fighting against, stay the hell out. There are no good guys.

They're preparing a 100,000 strong invasion force to occupy Syria


Hey Jacoby, you saying Saddam didn't use chemical weapons on people, how about you tell that to the Iraqi Kurds...

Do I think Assad might use chemical weapons? I think it is highly possible, his father did it, what's to stop him from doing it? Why would Russia and China care if he uses chemical weapons or not? Seriously, they wouldn't care.


Who sold Iraq those chemical weapons again?

What Saddam Hussein and Hafez al-Assad did 25-30 years ago with a wink and a nod from the superpowers that were is largely irrelevant to the World today. Saddam didn't use chemical weapons in the first or second Gulf War, Gaddafi didn't in Libya, I doubt Assad will no either. It's all just scare tactics to get us involved in another war.

If the West is so worried about Assad using chemical weapons maybe they shouldn't be trying back him into a corner with Al Qaeda aligned Western/Arab backed terrorsts *ahem* "rebels".



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08 Dec 2012, 2:57 am

Do you think it's mere coincidence that Iraq switched back to using US Dollars to sell its oil after they were invaded?



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08 Dec 2012, 5:49 am

It is truely a poison pill defense preventing a hostile takeover. Sryia has said, the chemical weapons are only for use to stop an invasion.

They are also Doomsday, the final act, launch everything.

All defenses are based on conventional weapons, those that go boom. Chemical and dirty atomic, blowing the incoming up spreads the result.

Also, the missile defense is for ballistic, and does not work for cruise missiles. It does not work on drones. It will not survive unless ground and air are secure. It has no defense from tanks. Turkish aircraft have no defense from Sryian anti aircraft fire, so the border area cannot be defended.

The play is being the North Korea of the mid east. It could take out South Korea, and Japan, and not be concerned by the response.

The Russian Base at Taurus is like Gitmo, an unbreakable long term lease, and any assault is an act of war on Russia.

Bahrain is majority Shia, with an American navel base, recently defended by Saudi troops. If the Saudis were not able to occupy, the government would fall, and in a free election, the 80% Shia would win.

The Chinese are building a navel base in Pakistan, they are looking to become an all ocean Navy. They have a strong interest in Persian Gulf oil.

We already have a Saudi-Sryian dirty war, The Saudi are packed into a few cities with no defense from a chemical attack, followed by a conventional attack, and they are not NATO. It would be a private local war.

Millions would die, and Sryia was the long term defender of Mecca, before new rich Saudis took over. Liberate Mecca, all of Islam will support it.

The House of Saud, and their version of Islam, is only supported by them. Wahabist claim to be the only Islam, and all others are pretenders.

In a religious war fought for the leadership of Islam, both sides would fight any infidel who got involved.

Sryia is also the safe place for Christians, the largest eastern group outside of Russia, and they will continue to be defended, from Wahabists terrorists. If Sryia falls, the Christians will be killed.

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08 Dec 2012, 6:50 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
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The White House is looking for an excuse to start another oil war, so you be the judge.


The U.S. gets all the oil it needs from Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Canada and domestic sources.

ruveyn


It's never enough for the monied interests.


Whatever happened to the promised Iraqi oil?


Hardly a drop comes our way, and the equipment in the Iraqi oil fields is in sad shape. The U.S. does not depend on Iraqi oil.

ruveyn



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11 Dec 2012, 2:28 pm

im neither a misanthropist nor a cynic but if i learned something essential about human nature then its to never underestimate insanity. politically there is a way more important question to be asked though, and that would be how to react to it. starting a war, building a wall or completely ignoring human rights violations such as remaining merely a passive bystander while a country murders its own citizens are all approaches that are certainly criticisable even though its just as certainly hard to meet insanity on anything but its own terms.



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12 Dec 2012, 1:44 pm

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