Page 2 of 4 [ 57 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

Misslizard
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 Jun 2012
Age: 60
Gender: Female
Posts: 20,484
Location: Aux Arcs

04 Aug 2013, 6:46 pm

I'm sure it has happened,or they are " accidently"left in a hot car.


_________________
I am the dust that dances in the light. - Rumi


Giftorcurse
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Apr 2009
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,887
Location: Port Royal, South Carolina

04 Aug 2013, 7:22 pm

But who is to say an adoptive parent isn't capable of doing the same, childraising commitments be damned?


_________________
Yes, I'm still alive.


EmberEyes
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 8 Apr 2012
Age: 49
Gender: Female
Posts: 347

04 Aug 2013, 7:43 pm

Giftorcurse wrote:
EmberEyes wrote:
Giftorcurse wrote:
But what if said infertile couples didn't like their purchase?

Adoption is not a 'purchase', it is a legal comitment to be the parent(s) of said child.

You're forgetting that it could sometimes cost up to hundreds of thousands of dollars to adopt a child, and on top of that, you have to go through a smorgasbord of legal and psychological screenings as part of the home study. It doesn't stop some adoptive parents from going over the edge.

While all bio-parents are guarenteed free of mental illness, abuse, addiction, poverty..? The state or government have never had to step in and remove bio-kids from unsafe family situations. This only happens to adoptive families. I beg you, look at the statistics, and tell me bio-kids in general are not getting the shorter straw than adoptive kids in general...



Giftorcurse
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Apr 2009
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,887
Location: Port Royal, South Carolina

07 Aug 2013, 7:33 pm

^It's that kind of rabid defense of the adoption system that pisses me off.


_________________
Yes, I'm still alive.


Raptor
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,997
Location: Southeast U.S.A.

07 Aug 2013, 8:58 pm

/\
And for parent-less kids, what would be the alternative to adoption?


_________________
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson


EmberEyes
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 8 Apr 2012
Age: 49
Gender: Female
Posts: 347

07 Aug 2013, 10:31 pm

Giftorcurse wrote:
^It's that kind of rabid defense of the adoption system that pisses me off.

How am I being rabid? Because I point out that bio-parents are just as likely, if not more likely, to be less than optimal parents? The screening process is there for a reason, and bio-kids don't have the privilege of having their parents screened for parental suitability before conception.
However you wish to slice and dice the issue, there are hundreds of thousands of kids in this world who deserve to be loved, protected, respected, fed, clothed, educated, recieve health care and be physically and mentally stimulated. Is it OK to turn our backs on them, just because some nut-jobs slip through the cracks of the system? Should there be legislation banning all prospective bio-parents from having kids, because there are a few nut-jobs among the bio-parents?
Should it not be the ultimate goal to make sure each and every child has parents who will treat them with love and respect and cares for their needs? Or is the solution mass-euthanasia of every child that have no one to take care of them?



Max000
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Apr 2012
Age: 64
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,547

07 Aug 2013, 11:01 pm

Giftorcurse wrote:
^It's that kind of rabid defense of the adoption system that pisses me off.


8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

Image



Raptor
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,997
Location: Southeast U.S.A.

07 Aug 2013, 11:06 pm

This one is more trollish.

Image


_________________
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson


neilson_wheels
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Mar 2013
Age: 55
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,404
Location: London, Capital of the Un-United Kingdom

08 Aug 2013, 5:50 am

EmberEyes wrote:
While all bio-parents are guarenteed free of mental illness, abuse, addiction, poverty..? The state or government have never had to step in and remove bio-kids from unsafe family situations. This only happens to adoptive families. I beg you, look at the statistics, and tell me bio-kids in general are not getting the shorter straw than adoptive kids in general...


If ^ this ^ was sarcasm then I think it was missed, it's a bit hard to get the way you have written this.



BenderRodriguez
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 9 Feb 2012
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,343

08 Aug 2013, 6:14 am

Seriously dude, your obsession with adoption is disturbing. You have no idea what growing up in the system is like and you come across like a spoiled brat.

You keep making these thread/posts for years I see, you don't care to hear anybody out, don't offer any solutions or alternatives... What exactly is it that you actually WANT? :roll:


_________________
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley


TallyMan
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Mar 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 40,061

08 Aug 2013, 6:49 am

Reminder: Keep it civil folks.


_________________
I've left WP indefinitely.


neilson_wheels
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Mar 2013
Age: 55
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,404
Location: London, Capital of the Un-United Kingdom

08 Aug 2013, 6:59 am

GiftorCurse - I think you would benefit from counseling or some other way to deal with your anger. It's not a nice way to live. I have only been on WP for a little amount of time and I have seen you blow up a few times at other people and then come back and apologise for what you have said. If you can find a way to balance things out more, when you crash it won't hit so hard.



Nambo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 31 Aug 2007
Age: 66
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,882
Location: Prussia

08 Aug 2013, 7:23 am

If I could travel back to live at any time in my life, it would be to when I was in a Childrens home, but I imagine such Childrens homes are rare.

I would also imagine, unlike Foster parents, parents who adopt really do want a child and would probably demonstrate their appreciation for such a gift when one comes along.
How many "bio" offspring are actually wanted these days with all the teenage pregnancy and such? ruining young folks lives when they could be out clubbing or whatever they like to do.

I leaned that a rather rich couple had wanted to adopt me when they knew me from the Childrens Home, I wonder how much better my life would have been with them rather than my natural Mother when I was returned too who kept me alone in my room and never protected me from her husband who would kick me in the stomach, strangle me or hit my hand with his big man hands.



Giftorcurse
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Apr 2009
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,887
Location: Port Royal, South Carolina

08 Aug 2013, 7:47 am

The reason I hate adoption so much is because I'm afraid that my masturbation habit is making my chances at future fatherhood slim.

There, I said it.


_________________
Yes, I'm still alive.


neilson_wheels
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Mar 2013
Age: 55
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,404
Location: London, Capital of the Un-United Kingdom

08 Aug 2013, 7:50 am

Sounds like a load of w*k to me.



Giftorcurse
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Apr 2009
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,887
Location: Port Royal, South Carolina

08 Aug 2013, 7:52 am

^I must say, that did make me chuckle...

But seriously, I'm afraid that if I don't have kids of my own in the future, I wouldn't be a real dad.


_________________
Yes, I'm still alive.