Why do you believe(or not believe)?

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I am no sire, and I dont need you to entitel me to have an opinion. And I know facts. And its by fact really, really senseless to spread in an public forum, used by teenagers and youths as well to spread an so absolutely wrong information, as that AIDS among heterosexuals were so rare, that you could say it to be non existing. Why dont you simply buy a tomahawk rocket and fire it on every "Use a condom./Safer sex." campaign existing? What exactly is your problem with AIDS, when you are even supporting its spreading by telling, sorry, but really, really stupid nonsense, like AIDS being so rare as non existing among heterosexual? O_o I simply dont get it, how someone having so much issues about AIDS, tries by all means to boycott any safety and protection issues against AIDS by spreading such nonsense?

Sir, if you are monogamous, heterosexual, and don't share needles, there is almost no chance you will contract AIDS. These moral conditions are also no coincidentally Christians conditions. But if you want to worry about contracting AIDS, that is your business. The point is that if everybody were to follow Christian morality, AIDS would be a complete non-issue.

IT DOESNT CARE IF MALE, FEMALE, HOMOSEXUAL OR HETEROSEXUAL. IF YOU HAVE A NEW PARTNER, DO BOTH AN AIDS TEST. AND UNTIL THEN DO AN AIDSTEST. Thats a fact.

Again, because of my personal morality, I'm as worried about contracting AIDS as I am getting hit by a meteorite.

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In fact, the major predominantly heterosexual group to have an AIDS problem is sub-Saharan Africans, and that is because heterosexual anal sex is commonly practiced as a form of birth control.
So you think the virus would tell itself: "Oh, I spread myself by anal and vaginal sex. But because of the librarian disliking homosexuals, I know decide only to spread myself by anal sex. If they had vaginal sex, I wouldnt come out. The problem is not them using anal sex for birth control, its because of them having sex without protection. If they have vaginal sex without protection, they spread it as well.

Sir, I don't consider this an appropriate forum to explain why AIDS is much more likely with sodomy than with heterosexual intercourse. If you really don't understand the difference in terms of AIDS, I would strongly encourage you to do some research.

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Claiming that monogamous heterosexuals have anything to fear from AIDS is the ultimate in spreading fear needlessly.
You can only decide for yourself to be monogamous. But that doesnt help you in any way, if your partner is not. Do you think the virus thinks "Oh, I have now a chance for infecting this other person. But its heterosexual and monogamous, so I´ll decide not to do so?"

You are right that we don't control others. But if one marries somebody with strong Christian values, that person won't be promiscuous.

The atheist lie of normal heterosexual people not being immune against AIDS? I dont know if that saying is as well known in english language, but have you been hit by a train?

Sir, are we not communicating either? Of course heterosexual CAN contract AIDS; the question is of the likelihood that they WILL.



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Sir, do you have any idea how many blacks were lynched between the Civil War and the 1960's, back in the days of evil Christian societies?
I dont know of the days of the evil christian society then, because there were even laws existing, telling people that blacks were not equal, that it was allowed to treat them like dogs, by forbidding them to enter shops, just as it was accepted that you tried to avoid them unlike other humans, by creating sh** like entrance forbidden, containing that they were unlike other humans and worth less then other humans. So I cant say anything about the days of Christian society, because nothing of that fits in any way to an christian society, but only to a amoral bunch of hypocrites, that would have looked disgusted at a Jesus, not avoiding contacts to any human around him.

Since you ignored my question, it is obvious that I am wasting my time with any further responses to you. If you want this conversation to continue, please answer it.


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Again, we need a totalitarian police state and the highest incarceration rates in the world to ensure we don't take our lives into our hands while walking down the streets. It is also the case that I speak from experience. I live in a very religious area and don't even have a door key on my key ring; there is no need. But while I lived in the liberal part of Houston, crime was terrible. This is the reality.
Again: You need, as mentioned yourself, a totalitarian police state and the highest incarceration rates in the world, to ensure you dont take your life into your hand while walking down the street.

And among the western societies, your country is beside the Vatican one of the most religious one. So how does that fit with your theory, that less religious people = more crime rates? Do you think other western countries polices, secretly decrease their crime rates, in a conspiracy to let your statement look bad? Dont you think our police has better things to do, then care for you and your theories?

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So what is your last sentence about? About people with moral callousness against obscene income inequality, or about atheists? The both topics you mixed are not linked to each other.


Actually, they are linked to each other. Christianity posits a God who condemns murder, and also teaches us to love our neighbors. With atheism, morality is whatever the atheist wants it to be.


Yes. Just like you can choose an religion that fits to your moral designs. So instead of hiding their moral design behind an religion, they simply accept their moral as their own, and opening it this way to negotiation and discussion instead of "But mine MUST me right. A GOD SAYS SO! I HAVE A GOD ON MY SIDE! SO I MUST BE RIGHT! EVEN IF I ACT TOTALLY AGAINST MY SO CALLED RELIGION, BY SHOWING MY PURE HATE AGAINST HOMOSEXUALS! NO, ITS NOT WITHOUT ANY REASON!! ! THEY DO SODOMY!! ! AND ACCORDING TO OLD TESTAMENT THATS BAD! YEAH, I DONT CARE THAT CHRISTIANITY IS ABOUT THE NEW TESTAMENT, AND THAT JESUS WOULD NEVER HAVE ACTED AS I DO. IF ITS FITS TO MY PERSONAL OPINION AND HATE, I HIDE BEHIND THE OLD TESTAMENT! YOU KNOW, THE ONE, THAT WRITES AS WELL, THAT I SHALL SACRIFICE GOD MY MALE FIRSTBORN. AND THAT OUR SOLDIERS SHALL CUT OFF THE FORESKINS OF THEIR SLAYN ENEMIES. AND THAT HAS RULES FOR THE RAPING OF THE WOMAN OF OUR ENEMIES! BUT HAVE NO CONCERN; THESE PARTS OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, ARE UNLIKE THESE, THAT I USE FOR HIDING MY HATE BEHIND IT, SO THAT I DONT NEED TO FACE IT AND CAN TELL ME TO HAVE AN EXCUSE FOR MY BEHAVIOR, OLD AND MEANINGLESS! BUT THE ONES ABOUT HATING HOMOSEXUALS MUST BE OBEYED BY ALL MEANS! BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY FIT TO MY PERSONAL OPPINION. BUT HEY, I AM NOT A sh***y ATHEIST, SIMPLY CHOOSING WHAT I WANT TO BE MY MORALE OPPINION! NO I AM ACTUALLY CHOOSING CERTAIN PART, THAT I LIKE FROM AN OLD BOOK, WHILE I IGNORE THE PARTS OF THE BOOK THAT ARE OF NO USE FOR ME!"

Maybe the cause why the the christianity of your country, does not protect you from criminals as it should, according to your theory, is because it cant work if people only pretend to be christians, while in reality they misuse is for their own hate religion?

"You can also get AIDS from eatinb green monkey meat infected with SIV."

Assuming you mean "HIV" rather than "SIV", for starters, I don't eat green monkey meat. AIDS is contracted when an open sore, cut, or abrasion comes into contact with bodily fluids of somebody infected with this pathogen. I've never heard that it can be contracted through food that passes through the digestive system. Please document your claim.

@Thelibrarian, can you use the quote feature please instead of just copy/pasting bits of text from other posters. The lack of proper use of the quote feature has made a mess of this thread.

hey, did you know certain African prostitutes have natural immunity to AIDS? God must love them the most.

I neither believe nor disbelieve. It seems irrelevant to me. The world and universe can run and exist without God. I don't see or experience god intervening in the world or in my heart or mind. My moral character is actually better then the believers I know. So it seems irrelevant to me.

I believe, because I've seen the miracles. I've seen the amazing things that have happened, in result of simply praying. I've heard the stories, and met the witnesses, and no matter how many people say that "god doesn't exist," or "all the stories in the bible are made up," I will always have my faith in god.

Yes I am a Christian, and no, I don't care if other people hate me for it.

I was raised Catholic, and was actually the most fervently Catholic in my family (no one else in my family is particularly religious). I'm not sure why I lost interest in Catholicism. It just stopped feeling relevant to me.

I'm a Buddhist now. It's not something I expected, but it happened because I got into meditation for mental health reasons. Buddhism is not really a "religion" in the sense that there is no real deity. My understanding is that many make it work with other faiths. I just happen to accept the philosophy as is.