Dependency and Clemency
I'll start with the former spite and proceed to the latter upon finishing. People depend on each other for a whole plethora of reason from merely needing help doing dirty work, to depending on others for comfort during difficult times, and even for reasons as lowly as some miniscule diagnosis in which they depend on the government to provide welfare because of. I absolutely revolt at the slightest trace of dependency. The moment you depend on someone you sacrifice a morsel of yourself to society until you're no longer an individual, but just a fragment of society. People who depend on others are nothing but a burden to the strong, and this dependency weighs on a strong individual's shoulders and eventually manifests within them and continues to spread until all of society can be thought of as one omnipotent being instead of a mass of individuals. Dependent variables as I call them, are as good as dead, for when solitude is in the vicinity many would resort to suicide if not at least one person there to depend on. These dependent variables have little to no pride in their own strength, being completely agnostic about the afterlife, if there is an afterlife nothing will remain. For the only thing that you could be guaranteed to carry from one life to the next is pride, for it need no mediums in which to manifest. Love, manifests withing people and things that might be void in the next life. Same with any other feeling or ideal, all things may be void in the next life, it may just be a vast expanse of flat terrain with nothing but your thoughts to occupy yourself. That said, pride only needs yourself to manifest within, and you will always have you, whether you realize it after possible reincarnation or a memory obstruction upon transcending, whatever path it may be you'll still have yourself yet no guarantee of other beings. If people get used to being spoon fed empathy in tragic times, they'll surely crumble under the weight of solitude in the next life that may not have other people.
Now onto the latter which is somewhat related to dependency. Clemency is the offspring of dependency, weak individuals who've been smothered with empathetic lies spewed by the scapegoat that most likely went against some ideal when comforting the victim. The scapegoat often tells them that "everything will be just fine and that "I still love you", without telling them the honest extent their ideals allow them. A weak individual will take this unconditional love and spread it like a freaking virus in highly irrational ways like their scapegoat had so done for them. To possibly gain a vicarious experience of the scapegoat. This was explicitly shown in the political debate over the CIA's interrogation techniques against 9/11 terrorists, when millions of people blatantly supported the terrorists unjust acts unknowingly by simply expressing their desire for clemency in interrogation. Saying irrational things like "It deteriorates American values", well do your American values justify millions of people dying because the government is too soft to interrogate a couple of scumbags! They'd obviously respond no, in which I would proceed to shove their femur out their mouth. Just goes to show how quickly clemency can spread......
Next time your friend (if any) wants to depend on you with their issues, show that you care by believing in their strength as an individual....
Welcome to the forum.
And oh.. my..... Such a lot to work with, where do I start.
Dependence: To be truly, totally independent, you would have to live alone in the bush, with the only resources being those you make or gather. Yet even then, you're dependent on the landscape.
But as with almost everything, it's not all bad. I'm reminded of the saying, 'Everything in moderation, including moderation.' We're also hard-wired for some amount of dependence. And in my Aspy way, where I spend a lot of time in independent thought and independent activity, I'm dependent on my wife who covers for my absent-mindedness.
Clemency: Again I'm reminded of another saying, 'There but for the grace of God go I.' In other words, if I was born into the same conditions, the same mind-chemistry, the same inheritance, I could also have been the one needing clemency. As for the detaining of terrorists, a'la Gitmo, the arguments against it have nothing to do with clemency. And if you assume they are "scumbags" from the get-go, then you're saying people don't deserve to be treated as innocent until proven guilty.
As for withholding love to help people be strong, or any other similar ideas, we are not all built the same. That will work and has worked for some people. For others it's set them up for suicide. For other people, compassion and love has helped, where for others it has softened them and made them dependent.
Your words are a lot of 'one size fits all' when in reality we come in a variety of sizes, colours and shapes. When I was young, I was the same, and quite self-righteous too. But age tends to knock a lot of those hard edges off.
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I'm not blind to your facial expression - but it may take me a few minutes to comprehend it.
A smile is not always a smile.
A frown is not always a frown.
And a blank look rarely means a blank mind.
And oh.. my..... Such a lot to work with, where do I start.
Dependence: To be truly, totally independent, you would have to live alone in the bush, with the only resources being those you make or gather. Yet even then, you're dependent on the landscape.
But as with almost everything, it's not all bad. I'm reminded of the saying, 'Everything in moderation, including moderation.' We're also hard-wired for some amount of dependence. And in my Aspy way, where I spend a lot of time in independent thought and independent activity, I'm dependent on my wife who covers for my absent-mindedness.
Clemency: Again I'm reminded of another saying, 'There but for the grace of God go I.' In other words, if I was born into the same conditions, the same mind-chemistry, the same inheritance, I could also have been the one needing clemency. As for the detaining of terrorists, a'la Gitmo, the arguments against it have nothing to do with clemency. And if you assume they are "scumbags" from the get-go, then you're saying people don't deserve to be treated as innocent until proven guilty.
As for withholding love to help people be strong, or any other similar ideas, we are not all built the same. That will work and has worked for some people. For others it's set them up for suicide. For other people, compassion and love has helped, where for others it has softened them and made them dependent.
Your words are a lot of 'one size fits all' when in reality we come in a variety of sizes, colours and shapes. When I was young, I was the same, and quite self-righteous too. But age tends to knock a lot of those hard edges off.
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Yes,I understand we're all dependent is some way or another, but I guess I was a bit too broad. What I meant is that we shouldn't depend on anybody to solve are issues or for an artificial strength. I think this song can better say how I feel about dependent peoples and what they're worth
Please elaborate, I cannot see how lightening interrogation techniques isn't giving clemency...
One's life should be thought in retrospect of how they can live it individually. Others cannot physically or metaphysically become a part of someone else, thus when someone gives up independence in their own vessel it's as if it was dispersed into thin air as something void and worthless. So those who depend on others are really just like parasites, without a vessel to leech off of they're as good as dead. Metaphysically you are dead in my mind once you depend on someone for strength, so suicide would be killing nothing but a hunk of flesh with no metaphysical dynamics to it.
Interrogation is meant to cause the guilty to provide information. The arguments against it are about the value of the methods used and about the assumption of guilt. Neither has anything to do with clemency.
So someone who commits suicide for lack of a shoulder deserves what they get?
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I'm not blind to your facial expression - but it may take me a few minutes to comprehend it.
A smile is not always a smile.
A frown is not always a frown.
And a blank look rarely means a blank mind.
Interrogation is meant to cause the guilty to provide information. The arguments against it are about the value of the methods used and about the assumption of guilt. Neither has anything to do with clemency.
So someone who commits suicide for lack of a shoulder deserves what they get?
Yes, pretty much. The moment they depend on someone for strength they become a parasite, yet after receding back into independence it doesn't change that they were once a parasite. Think of it terms of 33.3333333, when they depend on someone they split their strength by two thirds. Although 33.33333 is a 3rd of 100, 33.33333 can still never attain 100 status no matter how hard it tries. 100 being no longer parasite, that is.
Interrogation is meant to cause the guilty to provide information. The arguments against it are about the value of the methods used and about the assumption of guilt. Neither has anything to do with clemency.
So someone who commits suicide for lack of a shoulder deserves what they get?
Yes, pretty much. The moment they depend on someone for strength they become a parasite, yet after receding back into independence it doesn't change that they were once a parasite. Think of it terms of 33.3333333, when they depend on someone they split their strength by two thirds. Although 33.33333 is a 3rd of 100, 33.33333 can still never attain 100 status no matter how hard it tries. 100 being no longer parasite, that is.
My younger brother had psychological issues that warped his reality. 30 years ago the drugs weren't as effective for his particular issue. They are now. But 30 years ago he jumped off a building, before he could be helped. He was rejected by a girl, by a church and by others who wanted him to be responsible for his problems.
20 years ago I did some IT work for a company and got to know the Managing Director. He was a great guy, a great family man and was excellent at his job. I don't know why, but several months after I finished the project there, he hung himself. He was a man that gave so much and had the nicest demeanor.
Neither of these people were parasites. One was semi dependent due to illness. The other was a leader.. the opposite of a dependent person.
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I'm not blind to your facial expression - but it may take me a few minutes to comprehend it.
A smile is not always a smile.
A frown is not always a frown.
And a blank look rarely means a blank mind.
Social darwinism + metaphysics... seems to me your reasoning is dependent upon a greater list of contributors than any of us could hope to list. -_- Back to sleep with me...
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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos
Interrogation is meant to cause the guilty to provide information. The arguments against it are about the value of the methods used and about the assumption of guilt. Neither has anything to do with clemency.
So someone who commits suicide for lack of a shoulder deserves what they get?
Yes, pretty much. The moment they depend on someone for strength they become a parasite, yet after receding back into independence it doesn't change that they were once a parasite. Think of it terms of 33.3333333, when they depend on someone they split their strength by two thirds. Although 33.33333 is a 3rd of 100, 33.33333 can still never attain 100 status no matter how hard it tries. 100 being no longer parasite, that is.
My younger brother had psychological issues that warped his reality. 30 years ago the drugs weren't as effective for his particular issue. They are now. But 30 years ago he jumped off a building, before he could be helped. He was rejected by a girl, by a church and by others who wanted him to be responsible for his problems.
20 years ago I did some IT work for a company and got to know the Managing Director. He was a great guy, a great family man and was excellent at his job. I don't know why, but several months after I finished the project there, he hung himself. He was a man that gave so much and had the nicest demeanor.
Neither of these people were parasites. One was semi dependent due to illness. The other was a leader.. the opposite of a dependent person.
Well, that said I guess it's useless to try and persuade you knowing that your mind's been clouded by emotions.
