Emotionalism...the bane of the Autistic...

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Probably depends on the person. Main trigger for me is frustration.

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I don't mean to be patronizing.
But just in case you are not aware,
frustration is an emotion.

A very difficult emotion for some folks. But never the less
possible to completely eradicate from life with mind and body
balance, and there truly is science behind that now.

Train the body in balance and the mind will follow.

The body is emotions and senses and the body does lead
the mind without cooperative effort
with both working in a cooperative
relationship.

There is a time in my life where I have little
regulation of emotions or senses OR focus.

Now, I have almost total control of emotions
and senses, as well as laser sharp focus
during all waking hours, including
control of thoughts, emotions,
senses, and by GOD, even
bodily temperature regulation
and brain waves to stay in a Theta
mind of creativity whenever I
CHOOSE.

THIS is relative free will my friend,
Same stuff that any Yogi will show
you is
possible,
like me..

I walk four miles a day, write music for an hour a day, and spend large amounts of time doing various chores and tasks outside. Physical activity and creativity, even when combined don't do jack s**t for myself. Your personal experience is just that, personal experience. It's good that it works for you but don't make the assumption that it'll work for everyone based on your own individual success. It's like Brad Pitt going to a leper colony and telling them, "All you gotta do to be an actor in Hollywood is smile. It works for me, so it'll work for you."

DD does Natural Horsemanship . It has helped her develop her sense of Self enourmously. She passed her first Rider Certificate couple of weeks ago. I'm so proud of her .
The horses help her as they will pick up on emotional states quite easily and they don't judge her for her mistakes beyond not always being very co-operative when she is in a stressy mood or overexcited.
Emotional regulation is really important and it don't come natural to her. She will never succeed in life unless she gives it her best shot for as young as she is. If turns out she really can't there's always disability to fall back on I suppose

Hitler ranted at the proletariat because that is what they expected and respected. It was part of the German culture at the time, a screaming, ranting, hysterical father figure. It was like a part in a play he acted out. His role before the German people was that of the furious, commanding father figure who put his thoughts in their minds and would be obeyed no matter what. It was contrived. That is the only reason he presented his lectures in that way but if you really look at what the Nazis did, it was based on calm, cool reasoning with very little emotion. The Catholics were the ones who appealed to the emotions when they said, you cannot euthanize the ones you calculate are of no use to society and that is what halted the Nazi disabled euthanasia program. The Nazis were very detached in their thinking toward human beings. They even obsessed on how important it was for German men and women to devote their lives to producing perfect German children for the German state.

It is easy to confuse the agenda of the Nazis with the ranting of Hitler but the ranting is just a veneer. It's just presentation. The actual meat of the Nazis is without emotion. It functions more like a colony of ants.

What I mean is that the emotions that causes the meltdown is different for different people but it wouldn't surprise me if there is a consistency in the emotion that leads to a meltdown for a given individual. In my case frustration is the main one.
Most individuals probably never explore their emotions to that extent though, not the ones I met in my life anyway...

If the mind gets damaged early enough in life all one can do is make the best of a bad situation. Some damage really is beyond repair...

This is true, if the mind is not wired properly in the first two years of life for social connections there may be no answers. Science shows that there may be no therapy that can work for children who are not properly nurtured during the first two years of life.

I hope there are exceptions; but there may not be. Anyway it does show how important the nurturing of children are, and to be clear this is just one example there are many other forums of social abuse, witting and not witting throughout life that can cause major damage to human beings that may in some cases may not be repairable. And yes, the issue can be inherent as well.

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I said it CAN work. Clearly it does not work for everyone, per my last my post back to Guzzle.

Unfortunately some folks, per science, do seem beyond 'repair' or 'fixing', and must do
the best they can to get by with a seriously functionally disabling condition.

I think you're confusing nazism with german culture. German culture, well before the unification, was generally more logical in approach than the majority of their neighboring states' cultures were-- this is why they've been at the forefront of science and technology since the early 1800's. Nazism just tapped into that pre-existing culture, Hitler being the figurehead.

All that is irrelevant though, the main point is that the path (holocaust) was chosen by emotion, not logic or reasoning, when the path was chosen then it was paved by logic. At the core is still emotion, not logic. Let's say I want a floating house-- a highly illogical, wasteful piece of junk, but screw it, I WANT it, that's emotion at play. Now if I build said house, I'm going to look through as much technical literature as I can find to actually build said house, that's the logic at play: if I'm actually going to do it, I'm going to do it right. Logic didn't tell me to build the house, my emotions did, but to make it actually work emotion can't do much on that front. Same with the holocaust, anti-semitic emotion led to the holocaust, logical systems were put in place afterwords to make it more efficient.

That's wonderful that DD finds Natural Horsemanship to work. There are many different ways that may work for different folks differently; but the important thing is to keep looking, and never give up looking for potential answers THAT WILL WORK..

Lol, yeah I read your last few posts. The initial post seemed to me to be an all or nothing creed that it works, that's why I made my reply. Like I said I'm glad it works for you, but I know it won't work for me-- I've tried all kinds of stuff from exercise to creativity to spirituality, but I'm still the same as I've ever been and I accept that. I do say if it works for you then let others know, it may be of use to them, just don't assume it'll work all the time on every person.

But emotions and ethics are connected. A person buys ecological or fairtrade (ethical choice)because they care (emotion)about animals, nature and workers right. I mean why would you pay extra money when you consider it from a logical standpoint? The cow is not your family, you don't see it and it's not your pet. No connection. Nature? What ever goes wrong will probably happened after our life time. What about the poor workers in Colombia or China, not my family, not even close, different society does not affect me personally. So it comes down to the emotion that tells you if something is right or wrong. It feels better to do something ethical than unethical (for most people…).

Also, too, for a little more information; for decades I am an avid exerciser and played the piano, although I will not say I was very creative, as I had to use sheet music to play.

It kept me going; but I had a great deal of anxiety and difficulty with reciprocal social communication along with that.

It took me to retire and get away from the stress of work and to focus sole on mind and body balance, to make it work.

If I still worked as an administrator over scores of people; multi-tasking financial management duties, and a myriad of other unrelated duties, with an open door policy; with questions and answers that must be provided by me, on a now-to-now basis; everyday, non-ending; I most likely will be a basket-case again..

I am not cut-out to do what I am eventually required to do, in my federal service to stay alive, in employment, and it eventually comes inches away, from literally killing me dead, from chronic stress.

My movement therapy, is a creative one that is entirely innate, instinctual, and intuitive.

And in the homophobic land I live in, it is considered a grave and mortal sin to show a soft side of a man.

Letting those so-called soft feelings out; for a man of muscles at 230LBS; in raising my arms delicately to
the sky, has made me, for one, stronger, than ever, moving from lifting a quarter-of-a-ton to a half-a-ton
with leg pressing strength.

Many people don't believe the reason I can out do all the marines at my base, at age 55, is 'cause of the feminine
side of me, unleashed, and released; but yes, it's true; power is in grace of total positivity AKA Unconditional
Tough Love, at least for me.

It takes a lot of courage to do it in front of people, when I first do it; but I am no longer under the 'strong
armed rule' of employers other than me.

And now people may giggle behind my back; but they never giggle face-to-face with me, in flesh and blood life; with the visual knowledge of both the power of my legs and grace in martial arts kicks.

I used to have to watch my wife walk and copy it to be comfortable walking in Super-Walmart.

Now, I dance walk there solo, in a ballet and martial arts style; without any anxiety, whatsoever.

Yes; obviously I am an outlier, considering I am the only one who does this in a metro-population
of several hundred thousand people. People may not miss me when I am gone. But chances
are, they will remember me until they die..

It's just 'stimming/flapping', with an artistic flair that some folks think is amazing and other more conservative
leaning minds think is insane. But the bottom line is; yes, it does work for me; and as fearless as I am
now with zero social anxiety; It matters not what anyone else thinks about it to me..

Anyway, I sincerely hope you find something that improves the way you want your life to be;
not matter what that may be..

From a logical standpoint, I'd buy it because money is power and if I'm putting more of my power towards ethical treatment it has a small, but quantifiable effect on moving the entire industry towards that path. Logically I'm concerned about the treatment of animals because we're all part this organism called Life of which each one of us is merely a component to the functioning of the whole: if one aspect gets corrupted it will affect other components. I.E. we can kill all the roadrunners in the field because they annoy us, but then we're gonna have a rattlesnake problem, we can kill all the rattlesnakes, but then we're gonna have a mouse problem in the house, etc. Life is an equation that must balance or life itself ceases to exist-- so logically I'm interested in making sure the equation functions.

Emotion would tell me to buy the cheaper product that's not ecological-- it's my money and I WANT my product cheaper, because I don't CARE about other people or things in other places, just me.

...B2