Liberals need to care about us more.

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Having a place exist that is worse than the one you are in does not actually magically turn the place you are in, into a paradise. Though you might feel like that if you take the right drugs....

I fixed your post with what I think you were actually trying to convey, seeing as how you love to make statements then insult people who call you on them.

Nobody's not fighting for mental health advocacy; in fact, that's become a hot-button topic in recent years. It doesn't receive as much media attention, but that doesn't mean there aren't people and organizations actively working for mental health rights.

Conservatives have been notoriously harmful to mental health services. Ronald Reagan eliminated Carter's Mental Health Systems Act, which effectively eliminated services for mentally ill people and resulted in a catastrophe of de-institutionalization for thousands of mentally ill people. Heck, even last week, Texas governor Greg Abbott vetoed a bill for mental health services because he believes mental illness isn't real (he was backed by Scientologist organization Citizens Commission on Human Rights).

What do you want from them? I don't want anything.

Hence part of the reason I am not a conservative/republican...that and that whole War on Drugs thing, and their general apathy towards social issues/injustices in general as long as they have the illusion 'this is a free country godd**n it'. And there are a number of other reasons as well.

Even though they named a car after a traffic ticket, it's still a better name than 'Cruze'...

As a matter of fact, as people with high functioning autism are often on Disability and/or SSI - which were the creations of liberals - I'd say that liberals are doing a lot for our tribe. And at least they aren't actively trying to harm us like conservatives are, such as when they attempt to cut social programs many autistics depend on, or when they out-and-out deny the existence of high functioning autism, like Michael Savage (a real Wiener), have.

Aaaaaaand now this is a "let's bash people who give themselves different political labels" thread.

If we could please try to stay on topic? And if you're not capable of having a sensible discussion about liberals/conservatives/libertarians/communists/Martian Independence Fighters without throwing mud at them, please just refrain from commenting.

it's been that since the third post

I think you're probably referring to me. Well, in all honesty, everything I wrote about Michael Savage is true, right down to his real name being Michael Wiener. As far as conservatives wanting to cut programs many Aspies and other autistics need to survive - well, I think that's only a matter of record. Though I do understand as well as anyone how political discussions can turn into verbal slugfests.

Please define "liberal". I am not being ignorant or facetious, but there are many people of a range of forms of progressive opinion that could be so described who would regard each other as conservative due to differences on a specific issue (for one thing, the more conservative of the main parties in Australia, my own homeland, is actually called the Liberal Party - well, they govern as a coalition with the Nationals, but the latter are a rural conservative party that has been in coalition with the Liberal Party for decades). Also, I am not sure if you can condemn such a diverse and ill-defined group as "liberals" for not being outraged about our specific neurological status. Bullying, depression and suicide do not discriminate; these affect neurotypicals and non-Aspergian autistic people as well, so I am not entirely sure what precisely you are asking these amorphous "liberals" to do to express their outrage that would actually help - many individual liberals are already outraged, but to some extent one can only vent one's fury on so many social justice issues affecting specific but diverse groups of humanity before either compassion fatigue sets in or the debate gets shut down by an almost equally ill-defined group of "conservatives" starts ranting about "liberals" and "political correctness" and apparently "freedom of speech" until their "liberal" opponents are either silenced, equally annoyed and argumentative, or accused of treason. I am sorry if this all sounds unduly cynical, and obviously there is no excuse to inaction on issues such as numbers of humans killing themselves, but that is not an epidemic exclusively affecting those with Asperger's Syndrome or other forms of autism, and I am not certain how helpful it would be to frame the debate in that way, though obviously awareness of issues specifically affecting those of us on the Autistic Spectrum, including Aspies, needs to be raised, along with the many pressing needs of our time.

Citation was a name of a racehorse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxDSsqy02XY though the car never came close to living up to that name.

You have been far from the worst offender in this conversation.

Not sure there is a way to stop political mud slinging on the internet....especially since liberals are worse than the devil according to fox news or any other right wing biased major news source, or visit the politics/philosophy section of this site or just be walking around and hear about how evil liberals are when picking up on random conversation between more conservative leaning people.

It is curious though typically the site moderators don't criticize mudslinging of this nature unless it becomes outright harassment(though seems sometimes that level of it is allowed or at least nothing is done) so you're a first who has expressed a desire to tackle this kind of thing here.

It is actually true that the conservative/republican party has expressed desire to cut/get rid of government programs that many on autism depend on, of course the poor and people with other disabilites also depend on some of these(though anyone with autism on SSI is poor by default because guess what your income keeps you below the poverty line)..but yeah its not the liberals that express desires to cut these kind of programs or expressing sentiment against such 'useless' segments of the population that need government programs. At least I take it to mean you where discussing politicians/people active in politics that are conservative republican like the party....rather than claiming any and all self identified conservatives/republicans would want such things cut or have such sentiments.

Basically you didn't say anything that's not true...or make any smart a** remarks about conservatives(as an entire group), just told it like it is. I don't see the issue.

This thread needs some « antagonism » included...

Here is the first quote that was made to said video-clip...

Holy s**t it took me over TEN f*****g years to finally start getting some people on-line to realise that government/statism is actually just a damn religion/cult...!

...I included this quote here just because I think it might be worthy of discussion if there happens to be those who claim to be Christians who actually bother to walk the walk instead of just talking the talk, partly because recently, one woman who professes to be a Christian asked me for advice on how she could go about getting a man to understand her, one in which they had recently gotten into a relationship, but she is one of those types of a « Christian » who tends to be very « argumentative » regarding « belief » and how « she believes » this & that, like somehow her beliefs were the most-important aspects about her relationship(s) with (an)other(s).

Then our group decided, for some reason, that we were going to pray, and so I made sure that everybody took their turn with « praying » before we were done, and I intentionally went last, commenting during what I was « praying » for, with statements like, « May God please help us understand that patience & understanding with others is a Godly interaction whilst also helping us understand that being extremely impatient & argumentative with others is an Ungodly inter-action » (amongst several other things that pointed out to how she was behaving [her impatience & argumenativeness & always trying to insist that her beliefs were correct, etc.]), and boy was it hilarious because you could see her writh in cognitive-dissonance every time I made a declaration with « the asking of God to help us understand why & how ABC & XYZ were ungodly inter-actions » wherein ABC & XYZ described much of her « I am definitely right & everybody else is always wrong in their beliefs » earlier attitude.

P.S.: For relationships to work out, the beliefs as to whether the ABC or XYZ of a past-event is true or not is actually irrelevant towards making said relationships work out or not, for what is actually more important is whether your inter-actions with someone(s) whom you have (a) relationship(s) with is a « godly » inter-action or a more « ungodly » inter-action (forget elevating beliefs as important, but instead, pay more attention to how you treat & inter-act with others). Anyway, political-labels are bad, for they tend to be divisive, and create politics, and causing politics is actually a very ungodly inter-action.