Would you date a feminist?

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Boo, it's different, kind of.

Who the heck wants to pay for their friends?

But, at least traditionally, men were supposed to be chivalrous and treat a woman like a lady, e.g. holding the door for her, pulling out her seat for her, being the one to pick-her up, etc.

Equal pay does not = 'treating' her, as I like to call it.

But equality means not being treated differently. That means getting rid of both bad special treatment and good special treatment.

One should really hold door open for anyone male or female.

ASHRAE Standard 55-2013, Thermal Environmental Conditions for Human Occupancy, states that for thermal comfort purposes, temperature can range from 67~82ºF (19~28ºC). This is the design criteria for commercial HVAC systems. This range covers the majority of humans. If you are a special case that falls outside of the standard range, put on a sweater and stop screwing with the thermostat. There’s a code requirement on the temperature and your perception of the temperature does not qualify you to overrule or question it.

Also, anyone who’s had to work in 40ºC @ 80% humidity would not ever say: “I think there’s a bit of a problem when it’s warmer outside than it is inside your office”.

she's not anti-AC. just wants the thermostat set a tad higher from time to time. older people (like my husband) also like it a bit warmer.

"But it's gonna take money
A whole lotta spending money
It's gonne take plenty of money
To do it right child"

'I got my mind set on you', George Harrison, 1987

You say that like it's a bad thing.
I'm not going to date someone unless I see him as friend-quality first; if he can't even be a friend, then I sure as hell don't want him for a lover. My generation saw our parents splitting up more often than not, so we're not going to jump into an emotional relationship right off the bat - and statistics show that we have lower divorce rates than boomers, so we're doing something right.

The whole who pays shouldn't really be an issue. I don't mind paying, if they pay next time, but that has to presume there is a next time.

There is enough to worry about as it is.

"Traditions" are just memes that took hold. Actually some of them are more modern them people think.

As far as tradition's concerned, the main debate would be whether to burn me at the stake or stone me to death first. Pretty sure traditions deserve to be looked at critically and evaluated to see whether they should be kept or not.

No I'm gay

I mean, "guy" and "feminist" aren't mutually exclusive categories. There are a few feminist groups further to the extreme who would argue that men can only be supporters of feminism rather than actual feminists, but the major groups in the US (like NOW) usually refer to male supporters as feminists.

Personally, I wouldn't be with a guy who didn't support equality for women. I like people because of their positive character traits first and foremost, and all the attractiveness in the world can't remedy misogyny.

Well, after critically evaluating the concept of the person who asks is the person who pays for the first three dates before equally splitting the bill 4 date onwards, not just for reasons of continuing tradition, but also as an early gesture of kindness and wanting to show the other person you're interested in them and willing to pay for their meal, I think it's one tradition I'd personally like to keep alive.

Another one would be the objectification and 'fanservice' of both men and women in the media, which, while actually quite modern, should not be gotten rid of.

Movies, tv shows, video games and such already have warning labels to inform the consumer of content that may be sexual or otherwise adult content in anyway, there's no need for Feminist's to fight for the censoring and political correcting of media, which is a form of artistic expression just as music, visual art or dance might be.

I also do not support Feminist's making a tirade out of misogynistic lyrics in music videos or such (case in-point: Blurred Lines)

It's unwarranted and irrational.

I support freedom of expression in the arts and media, so long as either warning labels (e.g. explicit lyrics on album covers, movie classification) exist or people have the opportunity to avoid the media or art that offends them.

And so long as content not appropriate for children is not exposed to them.

""Traditions" are just memes that took hold. Actually some of them are more modern them people think."

I definitely think human history is very cyclical.

For instance, Homosexuality and Transsexuality have had varying levels of acceptance across cultures across history, and it's only recently that it is being once again accepted and mainstream awareness has increased.

Just as many ancient cultures might have been sexually liberal, and/or had freedom of artistic and media expression, but then started to be censored and hidden, and have now just started to become liberal again (with swear words and other such content on television now when it wasn't allowed in the past).

And now, what with the popularization of 'political correctness' and such, it's going back to the censored ages again - terrible.

I lol'd. This could be a meme. ^



Some are cuckholds.

But, the reason why straight and relaxed men might date a feminist, is that women's politics change, based on their physical attraction.

She will be feminist with someone she doesn't like, and flirtatious with someone she does like.

She will be feminist with ultimatums, which she doesn't like, flirtatious to get what she wants.

She says that fickleness is a woman's prerogative.



I look like a >6' dwarf, from Lord of the Rings, on a ketogenic diet. It works for or against me, based on what -- whatever she feels like, at the moment. They will cross streets and make turns to avoid me, or sometimes, I can do no wrong. Some say they like really spicy things and sweat isn't dirty. My worse work clothes are supposed to be a fashion statement.

The answer is still yes. And if the girl I dated wasn't a feminist I would try and talk to her about becoming one.

LUCKY! I am envious.

"I also do not support Feminist's making a tirade out of misogynistic lyrics in music videos or such (case in-point: Blurred Lines)

It's unwarranted and irrational.

I support freedom of expression in the arts and media, so long as either warning labels (e.g. explicit lyrics on album covers, movie classification) exist or people have the opportunity to avoid the media or art that offends them."

By your very own rationale the playing of Blurred Lines on public radio in public places doesn't even hold true to your own rules. I don't see you getting all upset about people bleeping out swear words on public radio, things which have been done for years pointlessly.

Freedom of expression is a human right. Not being raped is also a human right. To quietly accept culture/free speech that supports rape itself leads to the support of rape. That is a serious problem. One of the reasons we have free speech in the first place is so we can keep our human rights.

I feel your argument about free speech is akin to saying 'We shouldn't have laws because they stop my freedom", with individual freedom being the goal. But in an anarchist society the power just shifts and it leaves people ultimately far LESS free.

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"And so long as content not appropriate for children is not exposed to them"

I really hope you can see the hypocrisy with that statement in comparison to your other statements.