Would you date a feminist?
Who are you addressing?
I never said that, but yeah, oddly I switch between Anachro-Socialism and Libertarianism...
I feel both are more similar than one might think, specifically in the level of freedom they offer the individual, they just both do it in different ways.
But, of course, Libertarians tend to dislike Socialists - they don't like the state or the government controlling the economy.
I find anachro-socialism can work on a much smaller scale, the best example I know of being Free Territory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Territory); a small nation built during the Ukranian Revolution.
In F.T. everyone did their share to contribute to the economy and standard of living - the farmer's worked, the military protected.
Sadly, it was conquered after 3 years. It would have been interesting to see how long it could have lasted in its state.
The 'bad' examples of Communism I blame on a variety of other things, such as Stalin getting into power instead of the better suited Trotsky, as bad as China is, its economy is amazingly successful. Communist and Socialist states due tend to fail due to the government being given far too much control. That's why Anachro-socialism would be better, but is even harder to achieve or sustainable than communism is.
Communist and socialist mindsets work in tribes, group of friends, and not much more.
Also, the Nazi's weren't about 'the state'.
Hitler hated Communists and Socialists and they were political prisoner's and victims of death under his rule.
Hitler simply politically manipulated his party to power, and once that was done did all sorts of manipulative tactics until he managed to get the ability to change any laws, even one's against the constitution.
I was addressing cathylynn Veteran.
Why not be part of the equalists or what not, who are for equality for all not just women.
As long as feminist has female in its name it'll never ever ever be about equality for men. Simple as that. Even if it was it'll never be seen as such.
I'm a human becaus I beleive all people should be treated as equals, I don't need s group for that especially one founded to empower women not make them equal to men.
If there was a group called menism and they said they were for equality for both men and women but mostly conctrated on male issues would you be like yeah even though there's lots of anti women extremist views they'll really about equality for women too, or would you be like men is in the name that's not equality? Especially given the group was started solely for men empowerment?
Willing to bet feminist would label a menimist group as sexist because it has men in the name. Hypocritically they do the same.
To op.
So no I'll never date a feminist. Luckily most women aren't feminist and many find feminism toxic also. Why would I date a woman who will constantly find everything I do or say as sexist and claim I'm leader of the patriarch because I'm a male. I don't need someone to bully me like thst and crush my self esteem more then the feminist here on wp have.
i read mein kampf when i was fifteen, and one of the very few memorable bits described him crying like a lost child when he heard germany lost in WWI. mess of a book.
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All the feminists I have ever met have your mindset, which is why I voted no.
most reasonable people have this mindset. narrows your dating pool drastically, doesn't it?
Heh, yeah..okay.
Why not be part of the equalists or what not, who are for equality for all not just women.
I've thought the same thing myself but have changed my view on this rather recently.
*Because the vast majority of inequalities STILL exist in this day and age all because women are STILL perceived as the weaker individuals in so many people's (not just men's) brains, often unknowingly. The prejudice runs deep. Even many things that MRA cite as issues for men, which they ARE but when examined more closely, they actually stem from thinking that women are weaker, subordinate somehow.
Let me give a few example of the latter. One of them came up as a question on this site that I answered. Why when an older man at a bar wants to pick up a younger girl it's creepy, but when an older woman picks up a younger man, it's ok? A young woman is somehow more vulnerable than a young man in societies' eyes, unable to make decisions for herself. But a man of her age is somehow more capable of making proper decisions than her.
A female teacher accidentally gets sexual texts from a male student thinking he's talking to someone else. The school board finds out and does nothing. A male teacher gets sexual texts from a female student thinking she's talking to someone else, the school board finds out, he looses his job. Why? Because the female student is for some reason more vulnerable than that male student.
Both cases, negative consequences for the men only because the women are seen as more subordinate, more pliable, more in need of protection, less able to choose properly for herself.
Pretty much the only right that I see as a purely male issue not stemming from women's lack of power in things in general are custody issues (the only area where women have HAD power) and things stemming from people who think men cannot raise children, which is no one I've ever met in real life although I have met people who say that in early stages of a child's care that a man is not capable of doing it which is just BS.
*Because in most of the world, women still get the short end of the stick by FAR more than the things we argue about in most of the western world.
*Because you don't take a slave movement that the slaves called a freedom movement and now call it an equalist movement just because the once slave owners demanded it be called that because they have to also work equally as hard as their slaves once did.
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Because it's hard to let go of all of human history as we know it, no matter part of the world you have been in, where women have been second-class citizens.
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Also, menmists groups are called Men's Rights Activists, MRA for short and they exist. The perception that many have of the members of those groups is that they are misogynists who simply hate women. Sound familiar?
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Even though I consider myself a feminist I probably wouldn't put it up on a dating profile because the term is too ambiguous and loaded and clearly I'd be sifted through by a lot of men who I might actually get along well with.
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Organizations change their name all the time as their goals and group identy change. So sorry none of what you said means anything about why feminist don't join anothe group or change their name if in fact they are for equally for both sexes
You examples are sexism against men not sexism against women. You'd rather have women treated like men in thos conditions. However I'd rather have men treated like women in those, a maker child is just as at risk as a female child for being taken advantaged of. Both cases should been treated the same the female teacher should have been fired too. Teachers aren't suppose to be texting students in the first place.
And and you show you're a true extreme feminist by comparing men to slave owners. I'm guessing you beleive all men to be part of the the secrete patriarchy that runs the world.
The fact that you won't proudly put it on your dating profile shows that you're at some level shamed of it and aware there's s lot of bad apples in the movement.
Feminist is like the kkk saying no were not just for whites, we want black rights too we just think whites need rights more currently.
It's a women's empowerment movement started and still for women's rights first. They trivialize men's issues and often support sexism against men, by supporting thousand year old ideas of what a man is.
It started out good and heck is probably joined it back in the 60-70s but it's turned into s fanatically group thst even its founders are ashamed of. Calling everything sexist and accusing all men as being evil and conspiring to the enslavemwnt of women. It's no wonder the majority of people steer clear of it.
You're either a feminist or your the enemy. It's terrible how feminist attack non feminist women, or slut shame or try to tell women how to live their lives.
I won't be part of a hate group. If you want to and only blindly see the good in it and make exceptions and excuses the bad parts so be it, but you won't make me or others do so.
If the other groups work towards equality for men and women then why not join them instead of s group working primarily for women only. The fact that two groups exist says thst they aren't working for the same goal.in this case it's feminism that isn't. It's for female empowerment not male equality.
