Democracy and liberty

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I don't know the US welfare system, but here in the UK you get a council house, income support, child benefit and free childcare. Wealthy and productive are not the same but they correlate and for evolution that is good enough.
You can only tax the rich so much before they leave, which means you end up taxing middle earners which means they choose to have fewer children.

No doubt, a large portion of the 1% aren't there because of productivity, they're milking the capital their parents, grandparents, or more distant ancestors acquired.

Not really, lots of productive people are quite poor, and lots of not so productive people are quite wealthy. Also evolution has absolutely nothing to do with your man made monetary systems...evolution is how animals and plants change and adapt to their environments in nature.

Also I do not suggest over-taxing the wealthy, just that they pay a fair share like everyone else and ending corporate welfare so they can't get endless tax breaks and options to worm their way out of paying them. I don't see what is wrong with that.

Perhaps that is to prevent tricky slum-lords from taking advantage of poor people looking for a place they can afford. I hear that is quite a problem in the U.K.

Those laws and regulations protect us from the abuses of unrestrained capitalism.
My dad had been a staunch union man, and so I know full well how wealthy corporations will take a mile if you surrender an inch... and they have.

This is extremely unethical, given that sterilisation is permanent whereas welfare is usually temporary.

Once again, your disgustingly grim view of human nature is shining through. People are not naturally lazy. Most people want to work because nobody wants to feel like a useless bum. Most people on welfare literally cannot get a job for whatever reason.

Another Thing: Most people on welfare don't have a ton of kids because, even with financial aid, kids can be a pain in the ass. Women only had seven kids back in the good old days because they knew that most of the kids would die of polio. Almost nobody plans on raising more than two kids.

Addionally, you are speaking about how bad welfare is on a site for people who are legally disabled. That's like encouraging suicide.

Oh ... wait ... you did kinda did that once.

Any good government should recognize human needs as human rights.

For example, all human beings need food to live. Therefore, food is a human right.

Freedom is a nebulous thing that you can only enjoy when you aren't struggling to survive. A government that protects "freedom" without providing the people with human needs is just making freedom look like a scam.

Freedom is a want. People only seek out freedom when their needs are met.



So, are you against corporate welfare? Why is "parasitic" behavior only bad when poor people do it?



Dude. Stop being an idiot. I don't care if I get a mod warning for saying this. You're acting like a drooling idiot at this point. I thought this site was supposed to be for people who are intelligent but socially awkward.

People are being arrested for jokes? This won't happen to you if you use your brain and stop being a moron. If you are talking to a brown guy who looks Middle Eastern, you shouldn't ask him "How many Pakis does it take to screw in a lightbulb?" That's just common sense. These people who get arrested for jokes are bigoted morons. Why should we allow toxic jock douchebaggery in our society?

The British government isn't ignoring the issue of child rape. They are doing the best that they can.

You are obviously just bringing up child rape to piss me off. This is a standard emotional manipulation tactic used by trolls.

What does this even have to do with welfare?



Yep. Big government leads to abuse.

You are ignoring the fact that early America had a "small government" and yet slavery was legal.

Governments that let poor people starve to death do not automatically look after your freedoms. Most third world governments don't provide their citizens with proper healthcare or proper roads ... and yet these "small governments" are still prone to human rights abuses.

Stop being dumb on purpose. There is no way that anyone could seriously believe in the filth that you are spewing.

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Most third world countries are "fiscally conservative" in terms of their economic structure. They have a welfare net for the rich and it's tough for everyone else.

Let's use the Democratic Republic of Congo as an example. The country has one of the highest poverty rates in the world. They country also has no welfare system and no universal healthcare. Capitalism does not create wealth.

Meanwhile, the Soviet Union sent the first man into space, and it was so powerful that that US government was worried.

No economic system "creates wealth". That is just capitalist horses**t. In any society, wealth is extracted from the natural environment. The economic system just determines who gets the wealth and who doesn't.

Government assistance lifts people out of poverty. That is simply a fact.



That population increase was due to technological growth, not government assistance. Ethiopia has never had a significant amount of social security.



Letting poor people die of starvation is dehumanising.

You are essentially saying that some people should die just because their parents were irresponsible. Why should children have to suffer because of their parents' irresponsibility?

more BS

Science moves forward because some people just have a passion for science.

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Are you seriously arguing that people only go to university to make money? What about all of the Women's Studies majors who are working at McDonalds to pay off their student debt?

People go to university because they have a passion for knowledge. It's almost never about money.

If university were all about the money, everyone would take computer science.



People are doing better nowadays because of democracy, not because of capitalism.

People also enjoyed life during the prehistoric era because democracy is natural human behavior. During the prehistoric era, suicide was a foreign concept because people enjoyed life so much.



During prehistory, people were surrounded by dangerous animals and death was everywhere, but people still loved life because they didn't live in a brutal system based on greed. People back then shared everything and made decisions democratically. In those days, the wilds were dangerous, but you could always trust the other people in your tribe. Love and trust held these societies together, not greed.

Another Thing: Do you seriously believe that capitalism isn't a system based on violence, or are you being deliberately dumb again?





I already proved that we aren't freer than ever. The freest societies in the world today are Amazonian tribes. That is a fact.

"Wealth" is hard to measure objectively, but the modern world is full of poverty, most of which exists in "fiscally conservative" societies. As I already pointed out, most African politicians agree with the Republican Party on nearly every issue. This is the main cause of poverty in Africa.

In the prehistoric era, people had a modest amount of food and they shared all of it.

What is wealth? In my opinion, the wealth that matters most is food. Nobody in the prehistoric era had opulent wealth, but everyone had food ... healthy food ... not junk food.

Primitive communism sustained our ancestors for millions of years. With this social system, our ancestors survived the ice age and the Toba catastrophe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_communism

Primitive communism sustained human beings for millennia. It is the natural social system. It is the default human social system.

Social democracy is an attempt to bring back natural human behavior in a technological setting ... and it has already worked in every country that has tried it.

No. The main job of a parent is to protect children and give them basic information about the world in which they live. For example, parents need to teach their kids about what is and isn't poisonous. Parents also need to keep their kids away from dangerous animals, broken glass, ect.

When parents cannot provide their kids with food, that is more complicated. Usually, the society is to blame.

This tsunami of political diarrhea never ends.

What about America's oil wars?



In capitalist societies, there are landlords who own land and will charge you rent to live there. Most people who live on rental property simply can't afford a proper house.

How is rent any different from taxation?

Landlords can even create rules, and they will boot you out if you break the rules.

In a capitalist society, landowners can essentially create mini-states with taxes, laws and everything.



Bollocks. People have always created wealth through nonviolent methods. When prehistoric humans picked fruits and nuts off trees, this was a non-violent form of wealth creation.

Stop claiming that wealth is created by a particular economic system. An any society, people extract materials from the natural world such as fruit, wood, ore, diamonds, ect. This creates wealth.

And next their need to volunteer to go to camps if they want to keep gettin benefits.
Freak that. Government shouldn’t ever be able to require sterilization

You say humans are not naturally lazy do you not understand how evolution works? If we pay lazy people to have more children lazy genes will become more common.

It is unethical to have children, its unethical to bring them into poverty, it is unethical to take money from another person to fund you lifestyle choice of having a child.

There are lots of productive people that are poor that is true but they mostly are low skilled and their jobs likely to be replaced too. Man made money system that pay people to have children they couldn't otherwise afford absolutely have everything to do with evolution.

No food is not a human right. In order to be given food the government has to infringe on the rights of someone else and take something from them.

I am absolutely against corporate welfare too.

The guy who was arrested for joke his GF had a pug who she thought was the cutest thing in the world, so as a joke he thought make it the least cutest thing so he taught it to nazi salute when he said gas the Jews, he has been found guilty for this with the judge saying context doesn't matter. He did not have a jury, the police had to request a jewish man they work with to make a complaint so they could prosecute him.

The British government absolutely has been ignoring child rape. They treated 13 year old girls like prostitutes. It is indisputable they ignored child rape at this point.

The more people who are dependant on the state the more it is allowed to get away with.