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18 Jan 2019, 11:46 pm

Some precious lil "people" think depression is an emotion, and mental illness is a choice

They can fancy themselves physically ill or disabled, but they can't imagine mental illness. (They can fancy Alzheimer's)

So, no euthanasia for ",crazy" people



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18 Jan 2019, 11:55 pm

shortfatbalduglyman wrote:
Some precious lil "people" think depression is an emotion, and mental illness is a choice

They can fancy themselves physically ill or disabled, but they can't imagine mental illness. (They can fancy Alzheimer's)

So, no euthanasia for ",crazy" people



It's so sad because, mental illness isn't a choice and those people are kinda close minded. :(



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19 Jan 2019, 12:06 am

It is not illegal to be closeminded

"Closeminded" people have a different definition of "closeminded" than you do

"Sad," is just an emotion

"Happy" is not superior to "sad,"


Some people say something is "sad", like that is set great catastrophe. As if to imply that everything can and should be happy



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19 Jan 2019, 10:01 am

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Suicide is illegal because—a person might want to die at 19.....but circumstances could change at 20. If a person kills his/her self at 19, the person will not benefit from the changed circumstances which occurred at 20. He/she would be dead.

What a freakin’ waste!

There are MANY people who wanted to commit suicide when young—but went on to do great things which wouldn’t have been possible if the person committed suicide.

Suicide makes no statement.....and you don’t benefit from being dead. You just rot away.

Suicide is illegal because every person has potential. Every person has potential to gain knowledge on how to make one’s self happy. And learn how to appreciate the simple things in life. And be a benefit to his/her family or community. State, province, or country. The world. Even people on benefits could benefit others.

You are not static at 19. You are still growing.

A concrete slab in life is a helluva better than just rotting away in death.


This may be true, but laws are (to some extent) meant to be a deterrent, and I don't see the law deterring anyone from suicide.

Furthermore, it stigmatizes it, and makes help more difficult to get when you really need it. I agree that suicide should be prevented (in *most* cases, but I'll save the Dr. Kevorkian ethics discussion for another time).

There should be no legal repercussions, and suicidal people should not be treated like criminals. I don't see how that is helpful in any way. It should be looked at as an illness, rather than a moral failing.



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20 Jan 2019, 4:15 am

It is normal to want to die in a f****d up world, ruled by psychopaths, or narcissists.



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20 Jan 2019, 11:48 am

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Anway Autism is a disability. And we are not superior to neurotypicals, we are inferior.

On what criteria? Objective superiority/Inferiority isn't really a thing.
Those concepts are basically social constructs used to exploit/abuse people.



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20 Jan 2019, 6:29 pm

You can't measure your retail value, so who is to say "everyone is equal"?

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Usually the only people that say everyone is equal, rightly or wrongly perceives himself or herself as oppressed


Even the exchange rate of monetary currency, changes every day


Your retail value, is only on that day, to whom , in what way



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20 Jan 2019, 6:57 pm

Fos11 wrote:
Anway Autism is a disability. And we are not superior to neurotypicals, we are inferior.

Only if a neurotypical has no flaws. And show me anyone who's perfect.



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20 Jan 2019, 7:35 pm

Asp E,

Based on fos's post, it appears to me that, FOS was trying to say that, all things being equal (which they are not), someone neurotypical is superior to someone autistic

Everyone has flaws, neurotypical or autistic

You can't measure the size of a flaw


Even, what is a flaw, is subjective


Some precious lil "people" consider being gay, a flaw


Some people consider homophobia a flaw



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21 Jan 2019, 4:47 am

Neurotypicals are superior in their ability to be social, a powerful trait essential to the success of the species.

Suicide is illegal so that law enforcement has a legal basis to commit people temporarily for their own benefit. Sometimes a time out is all it takes to change a person's damaged decision making process.