Trump: Time to recognise Golan Heights as Israeli territory

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23 Mar 2019, 4:43 pm

Isn't Israel mainly a nuke-guarded outpost of the US in its long-term plans to screw Iran?
I'm worried Trump is pro-Israel because he's planning something stupid.

Iran isn't Afghanistan, and even there, the US basically resorted to daily killing of people by drones - the Marshall plan for Europe after ww2 was a very different undertaking than that... There's no second Europe growing in Afghanistan right now...


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23 Mar 2019, 7:23 pm

The US never wanted Israel to have nukes, they did it against Kennedy and built a fake nuclear power centre to trick him. They then ended up stealing nuclear secrets from the US. Every US President is pro Israel.


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07 Apr 2019, 1:41 pm

pff... the international treaties in this world doesn't matter, Russia with Crimea, Israel and USA with Palenstine e Jerusalem. Why the UN exist, if nobody resepect its resolutions and treaties?



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07 Apr 2019, 2:18 pm

The Crimea situation is nothing like the Golan Heights or Palestine.


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07 Apr 2019, 3:03 pm

I think there is. Obviously there's a time lag - Crimea is immediate so we all know how bad it is - but the Golan Heights annexation isn't much more "legitimate" just because it happened longer ago. Obviously with things like this the old phrase "possession is nine-tenths of the law" comes into play, so the fact that Putin's annexation of Crimea is more recent than the Israeli annexation of the Golan Heights does make international recognition of Golan less bad than international recognition of Crimea.

The Israel-Palestine situation is obviously a much more complicated situation which can't be compared to those two. It's more comparable to the China-Taiwan squabble, except reversed.



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07 Apr 2019, 4:08 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
I think there is. Obviously there's a time lag - Crimea is immediate so we all know how bad it is - but the Golan Heights annexation isn't much more "legitimate" just because it happened longer ago. Obviously with things like this the old phrase "possession is nine-tenths of the law" comes into play, so the fact that Putin's annexation of Crimea is more recent than the Israeli annexation of the Golan Heights does make international recognition of Golan less bad than international recognition of Crimea.

The Israel-Palestine situation is obviously a much more complicated situation which can't be compared to those two. It's more comparable to the China-Taiwan squabble, except reversed.


Um no. It's comparable to the Native Americans.

The US removed the elected leader in Ukraine with armed Neo-Nazis. Then the new government outlawed Russian in Crimea where around 95% of the people are Russian speaking. Crimea used to be part of Russia and there's always been Russian army bases there.

Israel invaded Syria and stole land through war and have basically annexed it. They've done the same in Egypt, Palestine and Lebanon.


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