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02 Jul 2020, 11:47 am

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I've never heard the term "cuck" used to refer to the disabled. Where have you seen this?


Perhaps I used poor grammar. I mostly used "cuck" to make reference to a general alt-right view of the wasteful existence and weak opponents, along the lines of what they might think of those trying very hard to provide more meaningful services to the disabled.

"a weak or servile man (often used as a contemptuous term for a man with moderate or progressive political views)."

I can see that it was probably not implemented well enough together as a coherent sentence. So I will try my best to do so better next time.


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02 Jul 2020, 11:54 am

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I've never heard the term "cuck" used to refer to the disabled. Where have you seen this?


Perhaps I used poor grammar. I mostly used "cuck" to make reference to a general alt-right view of the wasteful existence and weak opponents, along the lines of what they might think of those trying very hard to provide more meaningful services to the disabled.

"a weak or servile man (often used as a contemptuous term for a man with moderate or progressive political views)."

I can see that it was probably not implemented well enough together as a coherent sentence. So I will try my best to do so better next time.


Think it’s an abbreviation of “cuckold”.



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02 Jul 2020, 12:15 pm

A cuckhold is one who lost his wife to another man,colloquial early middle English.

How to pull someone out of Alt-right type cults :?: Hopefully not the same chickenhawk like techniques the Alt-right uses to recruit vulnerable young people to Alt-right cults in the first place.


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02 Jul 2020, 12:25 pm

^ Yeah, I think that’s the implication: insultee is not a “real man” so his wife/SO has to look for sexual satisfaction elsewhere.

I think a good idea would be large sections of the left acknowledging that the moderate, authentically conservative, right are not foes on the issue.



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02 Jul 2020, 12:35 pm

The word cuck seems to have come to be one of those interchangeable kinds of words.

For instance, I looked at the comments of the OP video, and people were talking about "groypers". I'm not familiar with them. So I googled it. They seem to be a more far right than the alt right split off from the alt right. I was reading about the "groyper wars" where groypers were sent to ask their questions at this conservative tour thing. They're trying to spread their ideas into mainstream American conservatism. I saw something from a groyper talking about this. He said he hoped they wouldn't get cucked by the plants in the crowd.



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02 Jul 2020, 12:41 pm

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^ Yeah, I think that’s the implication: insultee is not a “real man” so his wife/SO has to look for sexual satisfaction elsewhere.

I think a good idea would be large sections of the left acknowledging that the moderate, authentically conservative, right are not foes on the issue.

So your saying the Alt right uses this archaic term to emasculate political enemies.


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02 Jul 2020, 12:50 pm

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^ Yeah, I think that’s the implication: insultee is not a “real man” so his wife/SO has to look for sexual satisfaction elsewhere.

I think a good idea would be large sections of the left acknowledging that the moderate, authentically conservative, right are not foes on the issue.

So your saying the Alt right uses this archaic term to emasculate political enemies.

Something like that, although I query if it’s more like sports fans talking amongst themselves about how useless the rival teams are: more of a bonding thing amongst themselves than anything else. :shrug:



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02 Jul 2020, 1:12 pm

Karamazov wrote:
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^ Yeah, I think that’s the implication: insultee is not a “real man” so his wife/SO has to look for sexual satisfaction elsewhere.

I think a good idea would be large sections of the left acknowledging that the moderate, authentically conservative, right are not foes on the issue.

So your saying the Alt right uses this archaic term to emasculate political enemies.

Something like that, although I query if it’s more like sports fans talking amongst themselves about how useless the rival teams are: more of a bonding thing amongst themselves than anything else. :shrug:

Like I said, it's gotten pretty mainstream and interchangeable.

I just googled "got cucked by" and the first hit was by a dragon in a video game and the third was cucked by a girl! So it's a lot like saying f****d and calling someone a f****r, it's usually got nothing to with anything sexual, even though the word originated from that.



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02 Jul 2020, 1:26 pm

Drake wrote:
Karamazov wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Karamazov wrote:
^ Yeah, I think that’s the implication: insultee is not a “real man” so his wife/SO has to look for sexual satisfaction elsewhere.

I think a good idea would be large sections of the left acknowledging that the moderate, authentically conservative, right are not foes on the issue.

So your saying the Alt right uses this archaic term to emasculate political enemies.

Something like that, although I query if it’s more like sports fans talking amongst themselves about how useless the rival teams are: more of a bonding thing amongst themselves than anything else. :shrug:

Like I said, it's gotten pretty mainstream and interchangeable.

I just googled "got cucked by" and the first hit was by a dragon in a video game and the third was cucked by a girl! So it's a lot like saying f****d and calling someone a f****r, it's usually got nothing to with anything sexual, even though the word originated from that.

Yeah, would be interesting to map it’s spread into contemporary slang though.
A friend in my teens (so late 1990s) had a stache of imported US porn mags he’d shoplifted from a newsagents in the local city, one of them had cuckold fetish stories in it: could media of that type have been the source point?
I know “beta-cuck” is a piece of incel lingo... connection maybe?



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02 Jul 2020, 1:27 pm

I thought "cuck" was the same thing as calling someone a "soy boy" or "pajama boy". But I'm not up on current slang.



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02 Jul 2020, 1:33 pm

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First we need to figure out how to pull people out of the alt left, currently alt left seems to be sucking in everyone on the left. It’s concerning.


Please define this term alt-left - I'm sure you've got an actual, coherent definition for 'alt-left', and that it's not just a poor attempt to create a term analogous to 'alt-right', right?


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02 Jul 2020, 1:39 pm

Karamazov wrote:
Bradleigh wrote:
Magna wrote:
I've never heard the term "cuck" used to refer to the disabled. Where have you seen this?
Perhaps I used poor grammar. I mostly used "cuck" to make reference to a general alt-right view of the wasteful existence and weak opponents, along the lines of what they might think of those trying very hard to provide more meaningful services to the disabled. "a weak or servile man (often used as a contemptuous term for a man with moderate or progressive political views)." I can see that it was probably not implemented well enough together as a coherent sentence. So I will try my best to do so better next time.
Think it’s an abbreviation of “cuckold”.
According to the "Definitive Guide to Incels"...
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Cuck: A man whose wife/girlfriend is having sex with another man. There are racial overtones, with the word often referring specifically to women cheating with black men. There are also BDSM-like connotations, as the man supposedly gets off on the humiliation.
So yeah, its current usage seems to be derived from "cuckold".



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02 Jul 2020, 1:47 pm

Fnord wrote:
Karamazov wrote:
Bradleigh wrote:
Magna wrote:
I've never heard the term "cuck" used to refer to the disabled. Where have you seen this?
Perhaps I used poor grammar. I mostly used "cuck" to make reference to a general alt-right view of the wasteful existence and weak opponents, along the lines of what they might think of those trying very hard to provide more meaningful services to the disabled. "a weak or servile man (often used as a contemptuous term for a man with moderate or progressive political views)." I can see that it was probably not implemented well enough together as a coherent sentence. So I will try my best to do so better next time.
Think it’s an abbreviation of “cuckold”.
According to the "Definitive Guide to Incels"...
Quote:
Cuck: A man whose wife/girlfriend is having sex with another man. There are racial overtones, with the word often referring specifically to women cheating with black men. There are also BDSM-like connotations, as the man supposedly gets off on the humiliation.
So yeah, its current usage seems to be derived from "cuckold".

That’s pretty much what the stories in my friends porn stache were to a T.
Pretty repellent stuff.
Thought there was a link there.

Note to self: must find out if there’s ever been any research into the phenomena of racist groups sexually fetishising the ethnicities they despise (no, this doesn’t mean I think all incels are racists, just the flow of thought as it comes :wink:



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02 Jul 2020, 1:49 pm

Save me from wrongthink guys! Before it's too late!

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So that's the Vaush I've been hearing about.


Yeah I've heard of him before. From this video "Vaush: Dumber than Kraut?"
https://www.bitchute.com/video/tI1rbIYwK4A/ (warning for racial science & genetics topics)

That video is oddly topical for this thread too, there is a memorable little interlude I can recall regarding the Nazis and their relationship to socialism, both historical and present. But I don't actually expect anyone to listen to a 3 hour video, except maybe techstep.


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02 Jul 2020, 1:50 pm

Karamazov wrote:
That’s pretty much what the stories in my friends porn stache were to a T.
Pretty repellent stuff.
Thought there was a link there.

Note to self: must find out if there’s ever been any research into the phenomena of racist groups sexually fetishising the ethnicities they despise (no, this doesn’t mean I think all incels are racists, just the flow of thought as it comes :wink:


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02 Jul 2020, 1:58 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Karamazov wrote:
That’s pretty much what the stories in my friends porn stache were to a T.
Pretty repellent stuff.
Thought there was a link there.

Note to self: must find out if there’s ever been any research into the phenomena of racist groups sexually fetishising the ethnicities they despise (no, this doesn’t mean I think all incels are racists, just the flow of thought as it comes :wink:


It's a porn stash, a pornstache is what's on Ron Jeremy's lip.

:lol:


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