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08 Jul 2020, 2:12 pm

I haven't been a Christian for over a decade (subject to change), but in the last few years I've developed an interest in Christian theology. I think it's fascinating how scripture has been subject to so many different interpretations in different times and places. I love the debates in the early church over things like the nature of Christ, the development and decline of gnostic Christianity, the many different heresies and their doctrines, etc. It really makes me wonder how different Christianity would look today if only a few theological debates had gone differently, or if some movements had survived longer than they did. I also have interest in the theologies of eg: Islam and Hinduism but I know far less about those than I know of Christianity unfortunately.
Are there any other irreligious ppl here who find these kinds of things interesting?


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08 Jul 2020, 2:34 pm

Theology is fascinating. I’m an agnostic atheist.



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08 Jul 2020, 2:35 pm

I am. Not to usual autistic standards but I have a reasonable passing interest.



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08 Jul 2020, 2:42 pm

I'm agnostic (a relatively recent "deconvert"), and I still love theology. I don't study specific religions as much, but the fundamental philosophical questions and exploring how religion fits into a secular understanding of the world is still very interesting to me. I also love agnostic explorations of early Christian theology as a purely literary/cultural curiosity.


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08 Jul 2020, 3:43 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
I am. Not to usual autistic standards but I have a reasonable passing interest.


Basically this. At times Christian theology becomes a special interest but usually until a specific question is adequately answered. Ryan Reeve's YouTube channel is great for that sort of research.


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09 Jul 2020, 4:36 am

I'm not sure if I would call myself an atheist or agnostic, I would say more secularist maybe.

I was not raised religious,my father a Protestant of Danish origin and my mother Irish Catholic but never went to church.

In my early twenties I found an old Hebrew dictionary at an used book store.I discovered Judaism and studied it,read the Torah cover to cover from the first word in Berieshit to the last in Devarim.

My Hebrew is not good I can read some and know basic Alef-Bet,but otherwise not great.

I never converted at all but did think about in my twenties.I still watch YouTube videos by Rabbi's but I no longer read any Jewish Bible or Talmud.

It's a fascinating theology,most people today talk Christianity or eastern mysticism but you learn many interesting things from Judaism theologically.Worth studying for sure.


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10 Jul 2020, 3:48 pm

roronoa79 wrote:
I haven't been a Christian for over a decade (subject to change), but in the last few years I've developed an interest in Christian theology. I think it's fascinating how scripture has been subject to so many different interpretations in different times and places. I love the debates in the early church over things like the nature of Christ, the development and decline of gnostic Christianity, the many different heresies and their doctrines, etc. It really makes me wonder how different Christianity would look today if only a few theological debates had gone differently, or if some movements had survived longer than they did. I also have interest in the theologies of eg: Islam and Hinduism but I know far less about those than I know of Christianity unfortunately.
Are there any other irreligious ppl here who find these kinds of things interesting?

I've had a fascination with religion/mythology for nearly all my life. Buddhism, Greco-Roman, Norse, Native American, Christianity, Chinese, Hinduism, Judaism, Egyptian, Really anything. Some I know more about than others Greek and Christianity probably being the most. Idk if i'd say i'm an atheist because I do believe in a higher power just wouldn't restrict myself to one religion. Problem is knowing what i know about christianity it makes it kind of hard to believe it. Romans adopted christianity and changed it to fit their agenda, and that was magically god's plan. I am an Ex-Catholic btw. I think. Genesis depicts god as a real scary guy. I Also find it interseting to see all the Parallels between them. My favorite is probably Greek mythology.


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10 Jul 2020, 4:37 pm

Isn't it strange how studying Theology seems to drive more people into Agnosticism or Atheism than any specific events in "The Church" itself?

I mean, if I had never picked up a Bible and actually read it, but only attended Mass two or three times a week, I too might be a totally brainwashed into believing whatever the priest was talking about.



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10 Jul 2020, 5:08 pm

Reading about religions is the main reason I'm an atheist.


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10 Jul 2020, 5:45 pm

I’m not an atheist nor an agnostic, but I find religion fascinating. The more I learn, the more I realize the inherent silliness of beliefs which are at the same time deeply sacred.


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10 Jul 2020, 10:46 pm

Fnord wrote:
Isn't it strange how studying Theology seems to drive more people into Agnosticism or Atheism than any specific events in "The Church" itself?

I mean, if I had never picked up a Bible and actually read it, but only attended Mass two or three times a week, I too might be a totally brainwashed into believing whatever the priest was talking about.


On the contrary, learning more about theology has made religion seem more intriguing and appealing. I kind of "half-*ssed" christianity when I was younger. I believed in it but I never got involved at church or had it rammed down my throat enough that I got sick of it. Although seeing others being made miserable by it also contributed to my disillusionment.

I love philosophy, and I mainly left religion out of philosophical reasons. Theology is more or less taking a philosophical approach to religion, so it's been a more appealing way of exploring religion. Granted this does not apply exclusively to christianity.

Maybe it's an autistic thing that exploring religion through study has been more engaging for me than exploring religion through socializing?


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11 Jul 2020, 10:50 pm

Fnord wrote:
Isn't it strange how studying Theology seems to drive more people into Agnosticism or Atheism than any specific events in "The Church" itself?

I mean, if I had never picked up a Bible and actually read it, but only attended Mass two or three times a week, I too might be a totally brainwashed into believing whatever the priest was talking about.

I don't understand how ppl read the bible and still be on board with the catholic church. most of it is just ignored. I mean the old testament is just as bad. Like the things he did when people cross the israelites is so out of hand. Hey you enslaved the israelites. As a reward let's basically destroy your entire civilization. And For that matter. Alot of the things that happen in the bible have no evidence whatsoever. I'm pretty sure there is no evidence that the. Honestly he's so extreme, it's ridiculous. If he's so all powerful than why is he threatened by humans so much. And like it's not like they don't do that because alot of Christians read the bible. Maybe it's that their faith blinds them to it or something.


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12 Jul 2020, 8:24 am

I suppose when you read it at a younger age it's about figuring out what kind of culture you live in. When you read it more as an adult you might be looking for a more broad account of what's worked in the past for establishing social cohesion.

I had a really dead-end job in my early 30's and was able to read the bible cover to cover in 5 weeks because I could read it 8 hours a day and get paid (really bad mismanagement, we had no work, and they weren't going to lay anyone off). I made several more passes at the areas I found interesting and increasingly found it to be a syncretic period piece. I'd already read the Chaldean oracle fragments, Corpus Hermeticum, done some digging on similarities between Babylonian and Jewish calendar and cosmology, and was working my way through some of Rudolph Steiner's better known work so I guess you could say I had a broader context to place that in.


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12 Jul 2020, 1:24 pm

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I suppose when you read it at a younger age it's about figuring out what kind of culture you live in. When you read it more as an adult you might be looking for a more broad account of what's worked in the past for establishing social cohesion.

I had a really dead-end job in my early 30's and was able to read the bible cover to cover in 5 weeks because I could read it 8 hours a day and get paid (really bad mismanagement, we had no work, and they weren't going to lay anyone off). I made several more passes at the areas I found interesting and increasingly found it to be a syncretic period piece. I'd already read the Chaldean oracle fragments, Corpus Hermeticum, done some digging on similarities between Babylonian and Jewish calendar and cosmology, and was working my way through some of Rudolph Steiner's better known work so I guess you could say I had a broader context to place that in.

Haven't read the bible yet but i've read a few books about the bible.


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