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26 Mar 2021, 5:55 pm

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This maybe politically incorrect, but my biology class in high school refers to the humanoid species
Aswell as having the sub genus of Caucasoid, aswell as Negroid, had forgotten what Asiatic persons genus was?
Am quite sure there are various other geniuses and sub species of which , I am not familiar with. But those are the ones , I can recall . So if your running out of ways to refer to people of various descents , am supposing the scientific ones might be appropriate ? OR Not ????


You were taught stuff that was outdated, AND...you mustve been toking on sumpin good, and kinda got that outdated material even MORE confused! :lol:

It's the "human species". Not the "humanoid species". A "humanoid" creature would be an organism unrelated to man, but that outwardly looks human (two arms two legs a face). The vaguely human looking space aliens of fiction, and of supposed fact, are "humanoids". You and I are humans, of the species Homo Sapien, and are not "humanoids".

But the Victorians did split the human species up into "races" with labels that did end in "oid", which still in books in the early Fifties.

They were the Negroid, Caucasoid, Mongoloid. Australoid, and Capiod (African Bushmen).


These terms arent really used anymore by scientists, though laypersons still speak in those labels.

A German in the late 1700s came up with a theory that each major "race" of the human species had a seperate and small point of geographic origin, and fanned out from that point. East Asians from Mongolia (hence the name "Mongoloid"), and Europeans and middle eastern peoples all fanned out from the Caucuses Mountains in Southern Russia.

We now know that the peoples of western Eurasia ("Whites" and brown folks in the middle east with White features)did NOT originate in the Caucuses Mountains. But though the theory is bunk the name "Caucasian" stuck for the "races" in question. And is still used.



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27 Mar 2021, 12:11 am

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Why is the last one always a white male?

Is it politically incorrect?

https://alainamabaso.com/2013/10/22/and ... -diagrams/

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I'll leave this up to your interpretation



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27 Mar 2021, 12:14 am

naturalplastic wrote:
These terms arent really used anymore by scientists, though laypersons still speak in those labels.


They are still used by governments and the public
Human beings are divided into
White
Black
Asian
Assorted darkies (insert hispanic, arab, native, pacific islander etc)



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27 Mar 2021, 12:15 am

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Heyy, that looks familiar.



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27 Mar 2021, 12:27 am

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Heyy, that looks familiar.


Have you seen the movie Wall-E



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27 Mar 2021, 12:29 am

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Have you seen the movie Wall-E


Heard of, seen bits but no interest in watching it.



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27 Mar 2021, 12:31 am

The basic theme underpinning Wall-E is that once robots do everything for human society we basically don't have to physically move/get up from bed. So we are all heading toward being the plump dude on the end :lol:



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27 Mar 2021, 12:49 am

I thought African-American was a proper term. I am sorry to hear you got kicked out because of it. What term are we suppose to use now?



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27 Mar 2021, 1:49 am

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I thought African-American was a proper term. I am sorry to hear you got kicked out because of it. What term are we suppose to use now?


The OP used the words "nice African American"....which connotes that the person was exceptional because they were nice.

I recall watching a TV game show where people were blindfolded last year where one of the girls said she thought the person was white because they sounded "nice".

Likewise using as a prefix before a race/ethnicity comes across as making value judgement about that group.



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27 Mar 2021, 1:59 am

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I thought African-American was a proper term. I am sorry to hear you got kicked out because of it. What term are we suppose to use now?


The OP used the words "nice African American"....which connotes that the person was exceptional because they were nice.

I recall watching a TV game show where people were blindfolded last year where one of the girls said she thought the person was white because they sounded "nice".

Likewise using as a prefix before a race/ethnicity comes across as making value judgement about that group.


That seems like a reach though, as if people were looking extra hard for a flaw in what the OP said, thinking what in what the OP said could be miscontrued as racist, even if it's a reach. Unless I am wrong, and it's more obvious?



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27 Mar 2021, 2:21 am

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I just got booted out of an Autism group for using the words "African American" and not even in a negative way, in fact I said something nice and I got slammed for being a racist as it was explained to me, because it's racist to mention someone's race in ANY context...

But the same group did a lot of NT bashing which was pretty acceptable...

So I got kicked out of the group because I mentioned a nice African American guy playing a game with me, while at the same time the entire group was like "NTs this and NTs that"

OMG I mean... Okay I'm liberal but this is too far...


That seems overboard, what site was it?

That said I don't know what they were trying to pull...I mean like black people don't mind being called black people if you are not being discriminatory about it. I mean as far as I know they prefer being called black people than 'colored people'(my grandma still says that and I cringe every time). But she is racist, I mean when I was a teen she said me and my brother could both get a 20 dollar item she'd just get us as a gift. Well granted she did not like that I chose an Outcast album for my 20 dollars, she still bought it for me but made sure to express her disgust. And the only reason she didn't like it was because she is a racist and didn't like the idea of me being into a band with black people in it she didn't say that but looking back it is kind of obvious. I even mentioned it to my brother in the past couple months and he even laughed a minute and said, well yeah she is kinda racist.


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27 Mar 2021, 3:46 am

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I thought African-American was a proper term. I am sorry to hear you got kicked out because of it. What term are we suppose to use now?


The OP used the words "nice African American"....which connotes that the person was exceptional because they were nice.

I recall watching a TV game show where people were blindfolded last year where one of the girls said she thought the person was white because they sounded "nice".

Likewise using as a prefix before a race/ethnicity comes across as making value judgement about that group.


That seems like a reach though, as if people were looking extra hard for a flaw in what the OP said, thinking what in what the OP said could be miscontrued as racist, even if it's a reach. Unless I am wrong, and it's more obvious?


I think you can't stop people's perceptions. For a black person they will be left wondering what the OP mean't, Can I trust this person if she thinks only some African Americans are nice?

The OP of course was quite clear in this thread she mean't nothing by it and I believe her.

However sometimes its better to be careful and learn not to say things that might unnecessarily aggravate some people.

For example some WP members think they should be allowed to use the r-word. But what if you use it in from of somebody who suffered trauma for having a speech impediment? choosing to use some words or saying something knowing they may offend probably means choosing your words more wisely,



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27 Mar 2021, 10:51 am

cyberdad wrote:
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I thought African-American was a proper term. I am sorry to hear you got kicked out because of it. What term are we suppose to use now?


The OP used the words "nice African American"....which connotes that the person was exceptional because they were nice.

I recall watching a TV game show where people were blindfolded last year where one of the girls said she thought the person was white because they sounded "nice".

Likewise using as a prefix before a race/ethnicity comes across as making value judgement about that group.


That seems like a reach though, as if people were looking extra hard for a flaw in what the OP said, thinking what in what the OP said could be miscontrued as racist, even if it's a reach. Unless I am wrong, and it's more obvious?


I think you can't stop people's perceptions. For a black person they will be left wondering what the OP mean't, Can I trust this person if she thinks only some African Americans are nice?

The OP of course was quite clear in this thread she mean't nothing by it and I believe her.

However sometimes its better to be careful and learn not to say things that might unnecessarily aggravate some people.

For example some WP members think they should be allowed to use the r-word. But what if you use it in from of somebody who suffered trauma for having a speech impediment? choosing to use some words or saying something knowing they may offend probably means choosing your words more wisely,


Agrees with is post .


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27 Mar 2021, 12:04 pm

I think the problem with society today, is that they are so sensitive and paranoid to everything constantly thinking something is racist and sexist, just for the sake of being offended for offenses sake. Society has turned into sissies for some reason in the past few years.

We have a sissy problem, and that's the problem.



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27 Mar 2021, 1:18 pm

A lot of people get offended over being expected and reminded to be considerate of other's feelings. I'm not sure that's a reasonable thing to be offended by though, even if it wasn't expected back in the good ol' days.



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27 Mar 2021, 1:27 pm

Oh it's always good to be considerate and mindful of others feelings. It's just that so many people now want severe consequences for saying something that can be considered rude, such as new hate speech laws or people getting fired over such things for example. Is it worth spending tax payer money to prosecute someone all the way to a trial just because they said something that could be offensive, compared to prosecuting real crimes?

I am all for treating others with kindness but when the offended people want to turn it into a vendetta, and bring anyone else down with them in that fight, or where it starts to feel like 'sissy-ness'