Does systemic racism against blacks even exist anymore?

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I'm not sure there is much point asking us. We are a mostly white user base.

You would be better doing research. There's plenty of info out there.

Or are you looking for yes men to validate your stance?

Great video, Hurtloam. Thanks for sharing.

Just to clarify, when I mentioned Indigenous people, it wasn't to invalidate the individual or systemic racism which still persists against black people. I think a lot of improvement has been made since Mr Floyd's murder, but we're far from eliminating all prejudice, bias, racism, and bigotry overall.

It still exists.

There are many “minority” people who do well….but there’s still racism out there which does stymie progress for some.

Within a New York City context, there are neighborhoods which remain segregated. There remains the typical socioeconomic problems characteristic of these neighborhoods. The situation is certainly much better these days—but much work remains to be done in this area. It is obvious to anybody who goes into these neighborhoods.

Racism isn’t the only cause of socioeconomic disenfranchisement….but it certainly doesn’t help.

there are none so blind as those who will not see. it is quite plain that there is systemic racism in many parts of the nation, even up here in the otherwise relatively enlightened pacific northwest. there was racism against me when i was in the army because i am not white. racism mostly going towards POC but some of it coming from them towards folks like myself who has been called "half breed" or words to that effect many times, to my face.

Systemic racism means racism so ingrained that many people don't even see it, because they think what they experience (or do) from day-to-day is right, natural and normal.

It takes generations to sort that out. Putting a display up in a bookstore is just one step in a very long process of unlearning racist behaviour.

And yes, it isn't simply black vs. white. There's all sorts of discrimination. But finding other examples doesn't make your original one ok. That's like saying to someone with two broken arms, "You're fine. Look over there, that guy's having a heart attack". So what? I STILL HAVE TWO BROKEN ARMS. It's not a competition.

If you want to understand systemic racism, look at comparative figures for different groups that indicate the chances they've been given and the obstacles they've faced. And then think about how you'd go about correcting the results that are far from uniform.

Some measures include:

* access to education
* odds of reaching University
* educational qualifications
* average number of applications before getting an interview
* average number of interviews before getting a job
* job security / stability
(for example likelyhood of working shifts, part-time, zero hours, agency, multiple jobs)
* average income
* likelyhood of securing training / promotion
* odds of working internationally
* chances of becoming a Director / CEO
* odds of being self-employed
* housing security / stability
* chances of getting planning permission or a mortgage
* quality of diet, and starvation / malnutrition risk
* likelyhood of ill health
* access to healthcare, dentistry, opticians etc.
* divorce and single parent rates
* likelyhood of being a victim of crime
* likelyhood of being a criminal, gambler or addict
* likelyhood of imprisonment
* likelyhood of being questioned / arrested when innocent
* debt risk
* life expectancy
* overall quality of life

These are the figures that'll tell you what's really happening across society, when talking to individuals face to face simply won't.

"Why didn't she get that job?"
"Ahh, this chap had slightly more experience".
Did he really, though? Or is it because she was Asian and he was white?

It's hard to prove racism in those circumstances, because there's always an excuse and you can't prise your way into someone's head to know for sure if they're being truthful. But over time, if they always make the same decisions in the same circumstances and race is always the primary factor, then you'll know.

If lots of people are all doing that, all of the time, then your society is inherently racist. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, the results speak for themselves.

I've been stopped and frisked. I've been followed around in stores because of the way I'm dressed.

While I was running, I was once accused of buying drugs from someone. I had to produce my work ID in order to not get arrested.

I know this sort of thing happens to "minorities" much more often than it happens to me. But I do believe I have an idea about how they feel having to kowtow to the cops.

Black Nationalists and that ilk make the mistake of assuming that white people aren't PEOPLE, like they are. There is much more commonality between the races than what is usually supposed. They assume white people can't understand their struggles.

There are certain things which are peculiar to black people (in the USA)----however, their struggles are similar to the struggles of other oppressed people over the centuries.

Thought experiment:
So if America did what no country in history has ever done before and became completely non-racist, What would that look like? What would our laws be? What type of government and society would we have? What would the citizenry be?