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15 Jul 2023, 8:45 am

It's astonishing to see that some people are still trying to pretend that such things do not happen in the 'Civilised west' after Epstein Island.

I can remember the same tired old cliches being trotted out to smear people who thought there was dodgy stuff going down on Epstein's Pedo island. Only back then, 'Alex Jones' was the smear of choice, whereas today 'qanon' is the designated dog whistle.



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15 Jul 2023, 9:31 am

SpiceWolf wrote:
It's astonishing to see that some people are still trying to pretend that such things do not happen in the 'Civilised west' after Epstein Island.

I can remember the same tired old cliches being trotted out to smear people who thought there was dodgy stuff going down on Epstein's Pedo island. Only back then, 'Alex Jones' was the smear of choice, whereas today 'qanon' is the designated dog whistle.


While pedo activities were happening on Epstein's island, people were too busy harassing a pizzeria trying to find an underground sex and torture dungeon that didn't exist.


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15 Jul 2023, 11:17 am

Aspiegaming wrote:
SpiceWolf wrote:
It's astonishing to see that some people are still trying to pretend that such things do not happen in the 'Civilised west' after Epstein Island.

I can remember the same tired old cliches being trotted out to smear people who thought there was dodgy stuff going down on Epstein's Pedo island. Only back then, 'Alex Jones' was the smear of choice, whereas today 'qanon' is the designated dog whistle.


While pedo activities were happening on Epstein's island, people were too busy harassing a pizzeria trying to find an underground sex and torture dungeon that didn't exist.

Exactly.

Child sex trafficking is real. All of this satanic panic and other conspiracy theory nonsense that sells movie tickets and clickbait ads distracts from it. I'm sure the real child sex traffickers LOVE all the BS distractions people spend their time going down the rabbit hole and losing their minds on so that they can carry on doing their thing undetected.

Mind you, it's not as if Zero humans are working on busting sex trafficking and child sex trafficking rings, either. I know some people that work for various law enforcement agencies and I know for a fact that TEAMS of people exist solely to investigate these things. So what can be done with what info and intel they have Is in fact being done - it's how dirtbags like andrew tate get busted for kidnapping women and forcing them into webcam porn in Romania.


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15 Jul 2023, 3:57 pm

Conservatives: We need to protect our children against the groomers.
Also conservatives: “The problem is not, per se, teenage pregnancy. The problem is unwed pregnancy”


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16 Jul 2023, 1:30 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
https://youtu.be/7eHI0FDqbsc



it is because its a bunch of corrupt right wingers promoting the film that points fingers in BS direction which if anything just causes a distraction from looking at real sex trafficking situations, by wasting resources on false claims and such.

That is why people are bothered about it, not because they want sex trafficking crimes to be normalized, but because that move is pointing fingers in the wrong direction when half the Q anon supporters are sex offenders or potential sex offenders themselves.
Basically the movie is largely fake, that is why people are pissed off about it.


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16 Jul 2023, 4:17 am

The MAGAs think anybody outside of their tiny bubble is a potential pedophile.


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16 Jul 2023, 4:42 am

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16 Jul 2023, 5:54 am

Aspiegaming wrote:
SpiceWolf wrote:
It's astonishing to see that some people are still trying to pretend that such things do not happen in the 'Civilised west' after Epstein Island.

I can remember the same tired old cliches being trotted out to smear people who thought there was dodgy stuff going down on Epstein's Pedo island. Only back then, 'Alex Jones' was the smear of choice, whereas today 'qanon' is the designated dog whistle.


While pedo activities were happening on Epstein's island, people were too busy harassing a pizzeria trying to find an underground sex and torture dungeon that didn't exist.


Too busy trying to keep the whole female president thing from happening.


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16 Jul 2023, 1:01 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
https://youtu.be/7eHI0FDqbsc



First clue that this interview is BS: It's on faux news. Almost nothing they present is objective truth.

This guy goes off on some weird tangent that adults (of the other political party) are going to change laws to allow children to identify as adults so that they can consent to having sex with pedophiles. Ummm, yeah, because that's happening anywhere.. :roll:

It's all just recycled BS to paint American decocrats as some sort of massive child sex ring conspiracy group involving hillary clinton and a non-existent basement of a pizza shop, child sacrifice, hollywood elite involvement, harvesting adrenocrhome from kids blood to drink blah blah blah. Seems that way, anyways. Just finger pointing and conspiracy theory links to rile up the right wing and get them angry at the left. Granted, I've made some Assumptions about the movie and it's discussion/promotion but it seems to be the same old tired the people on "the other side are coming for your kids," nonsense.. which is why it would get a bump by trump.

Meanwhile, in reality, there have been several high profile republican politicians taken down for actual sex crimes against minors, and trump was a co-defendant with epstein in a case where trump was accused of raping a 13 year old girl. I'd way rather see a documentary about that and the revelation of epstein's client list - no matter who was on it - even if bill clinton and bill gates were his top customers. At least it's real and not some twisted version of reality used to attack groups for potential political gain.


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17 Jul 2023, 9:05 am

According to the Vice news story:

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While Operation Underground Railroad says it has no connection to QAnon and vaguely disavows conspiracy theories on its website, the organization has embraced followers of that particular baseless conspiracy theory, rather than condemning it the way that other anti-trafficking charities have.

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“Some of these theories have allowed people to open their eyes,” OUR founder/CEO Tim Ballard, a former Department of Homeland Security agent, told the New York Times in August. “So now it’s our job to flood the space with real information so the facts can be shared.” A few weeks earlier, Ballard treated the false and QAnon-supported conspiracy theory that furniture retailer/marketplace Wayfair was a child trafficking hub as a legitimate concern in posts on his Twitter and Instagram accounts. “With or without Wayfair, child trafficking is real and happening!! !” he wrote, adding in the attached video that “law enforcement’s gonna flush that out and we’ll get our answers sooner than later, but I want to tell you this: Children ARE sold that way!”

Here is a Buzzfeed article about the conspiracy claims involving Wayfare.

So it looks like the problem is not that Operation Underground Railroad outright advocates QAnon, but that it sees the popularity of QAnon as something to take advantage of for fundraising purposes.

The many people who have been baselessly smeared by QAnon are, understandably, not pleased. For example, being smeared by a QAnon social media personality, on specious grounds like allegedly "Satanic" hand gestures, is not a valid reason why someone should be investigated for CSA by the police.

Looking at the Operation Underground Railroad website itself, I see no mention of conspiracy theories one way or the other. At first glance, at least, OUR appears to offer legit services to local police departments. How legit these services really are would depend on details I'm not qualified to evaluate.


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17 Jul 2023, 9:55 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
The MAGAs think anybody outside of their tiny bubble is a potential pedophile.


Meanwhile they ignore the actual pedophiles within their midst.


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17 Jul 2023, 11:53 am

The specific QAnon-supported conspiracy theory that Tim Ballard deemed to be worthy of investigation by the police is detailed in this AZ Central news story from back in 2020. Some product model names of some of the more expensive furniture items sold via Wayfair's website just happened to be human first names, and some folks began speculating that the website might be "really" selling human children with those names, instead of the pictured furniture items, to users who entered a special secret promo code or something.


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17 Jul 2023, 2:05 pm

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There have been rumours of Hollywood peados, Satanism and even child sacrifice for years this is just fuelling the conspiracy’s.

It gets weirder Pirates of the Caribbean producer Stephen Hilton is all over you tube claiming he has evidence of child sacrifice in Hollywood and people are out to kill him

I'm a bit surprised that you, of all people, would be deem Stephen Hilton, of all people, to be a credible source, given your fervent opposition to even the most moderate, most well-reasoned variants of the neurodiversity paradigm. Stephen Hilton advocates one of the more extreme and nonsensical variants of the neurodiversity paradigm.

CW: Anti-trans propaganda discussed briefly below.

On May 10, 2023, Stephen Hilton uploaded a YouTube video titled "WOKENESS IS KILLING AUTISTIC KIDS," in which he claims that gender-affirming medical care is part of a plot by elite eugenicists to weed out autism genes. He claims that, because gender dysphoria is more common among autistic people than among the general population, the hidden "real" purpose of gender-affirming medical care is to sterilize autistic children so they can't breed.

Not only does he believe this, but he specifically says that this belief is the primary motivation for his entire crusade against the evil Hollywood elite. It's his personal "skin in the game," as he puts it.

Stephen Hilton's claim is nonsense, of course. Although autistic people are indeed disportionately trans, the vast majority of autistic people are not trans. (Here on Wrong Planet, it might sometimes seem like almost everyone is either trans or nonbinary, but that's probably because, other factors being equal, trans and nonbinary people are more likely than cis people to even think of the idea of seeking out a community of fellow oddballs, such as the online autistic adult community, because many trans and nonbinary people have already participated in the LGBTQ+ community.)

Also, the market for gender-affirming care is driven by consumer demand, and the LGBTQ+ community is primarily a grassroots subculture. No need to resort to elite conspiracy as an explanation.


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19 Jul 2023, 10:53 am

Mona Pereth wrote:
carlos55 wrote:
There have been rumours of Hollywood peados, Satanism and even child sacrifice for years this is just fuelling the conspiracy’s.

It gets weirder Pirates of the Caribbean producer Stephen Hilton is all over you tube claiming he has evidence of child sacrifice in Hollywood and people are out to kill him

I'm a bit surprised that you, of all people, would be deem Stephen Hilton, of all people, to be a credible source, given your fervent opposition to even the most moderate, most well-reasoned variants of the neurodiversity paradigm. Stephen Hilton advocates one of the more extreme and nonsensical variants of the neurodiversity paradigm.

CW: Anti-trans propaganda discussed briefly below.

On May 10, 2023, Stephen Hilton uploaded a YouTube video titled "WOKENESS IS KILLING AUTISTIC KIDS," in which he claims that gender-affirming medical care is part of a plot by elite eugenicists to weed out autism genes. He claims that, because gender dysphoria is more common among autistic people than among the general population, the hidden "real" purpose of gender-affirming medical care is to sterilize autistic children so they can't breed.

Not only does he believe this, but he specifically says that this belief is the primary motivation for his entire crusade against the evil Hollywood elite. It's his personal "skin in the game," as he puts it.

Stephen Hilton's claim is nonsense, of course. Although autistic people are indeed disportionately trans, the vast majority of autistic people are not trans. (Here on Wrong Planet, it might sometimes seem like almost everyone is either trans or nonbinary, but that's probably because, other factors being equal, trans and nonbinary people are more likely than cis people to even think of the idea of seeking out a community of fellow oddballs, such as the online autistic adult community, because many trans and nonbinary people have already participated in the LGBTQ+ community.)

Also, the market for gender-affirming care is driven by consumer demand, and the LGBTQ+ community is primarily a grassroots subculture. No need to resort to elite conspiracy as an explanation.


I suspect he hates the trans movement more than he loves autism lol

I don’t know much about Stephen Hilton to be honest I watch the critical drinker saw the review watched another YouTube Video on it then his video came up.

I thought it relevant as he was a so called “insider”

Appears he’s having some sort of breakdown though. I don’t really think much of his other views


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