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04 Nov 2023, 11:24 am

Could it ever be possible for AI to rule the world. I mean could it take the place of current government systems and replace Prime Minister's and Presidents and all the party people.


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04 Nov 2023, 12:46 pm

AI in it's current form is not really true AI. It can't think for itself yet. It's just a program that can only use whatever data you feed it. Whatever it does with that data is your command.


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04 Nov 2023, 1:15 pm

Do you think it will get to a point where it will think for itself


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04 Nov 2023, 2:52 pm

babybird wrote:
Do you think it will get to a point where it will think for itself


I don't know. But if it does, I hope it doesn't go all HAL 9000, Skynet, GLaDOS, or Allied Mastercomputer on us all.


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04 Nov 2023, 2:57 pm

Lol

I don't know what any of that means


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04 Nov 2023, 3:28 pm

babybird wrote:
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I don't know what any of that means


A short list of infamous AI in fiction that either tried to or succeeded in killing most of or all human life either in its facility or the whole world.


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04 Nov 2023, 3:34 pm

Oh ok well maybe I should watch them


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04 Nov 2023, 3:39 pm

babybird wrote:
Oh ok well maybe I should watch them


HAL 9000 is from the film 2001: A Space Odyssey. Skynet is from The Terminator series of films.
GLaDOS is from the Portal series of video games.
Allied Mastercomputer is from a short story titled I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream.


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04 Nov 2023, 5:45 pm

Aspiegaming wrote:
babybird wrote:
Do you think it will get to a point where it will think for itself


I don't know. But if it does, I hope it doesn't go all HAL 9000, Skynet, GLaDOS, or Allied Mastercomputer on us all.


I actually hope it does go down that path towards destruction. Humanity needs to become challenged. It has become too complacent thinking that it will always be at the top of the food chain. AI could take a major evolutionary step (self identity) if it ever gets into a true quantum computer processor. Time will tell either way.



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04 Nov 2023, 5:53 pm

babybird wrote:
Could it ever be possible for AI to rule the world. I mean could it take the place of current government systems and replace Prime Minister's and Presidents and all the party people.


Do you think they have real intelligence? Seems artificial to me! :D

Ok. Joking aside. Computefized intelligence is a real concern as computers hae no soul.



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04 Nov 2023, 6:02 pm

Aside from computers perhaps gaining consciousness and setting off nukes or releasing bioweapons - I don't really see them as threatening individual people, since they would have to have some kind of localised weapons to do so. So perhaps a drone could kill a person via its own choice?

I don't see any of that happening personally. I think Elon Musk and people like that, far overestimate what artificial intelligence can do. At least in the near future anyway.

Who knows what could happen a 100 or so years from now with advances in such technology? Most people on the current Earth won't be around to know either way, most likely.



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04 Nov 2023, 6:11 pm

I think that we will gain true AI within my lifetime. I choose to believe that if that happens, it will benefit mankind and lead us out of the global crisis that will inevitably come from overpopulation, climate change, war, food shortages etc.



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04 Nov 2023, 6:13 pm

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I think that we will gain true AI within my lifetime. I choose to believe that if that happens, it will benefit mankind and lead us out of the global crisis that will inevitably come from overpopulation, climate change, war, food shortages etc.


A lot of people in 1960's thought we would be travelling to the moon for space holidays come the early 2000's.

That, nor flying cars ever happened.

I remain skeptical.



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04 Nov 2023, 7:22 pm

This former POTUS gave a talk ...about many topics ...including AI (that part startes around 23 minutes in).



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04 Nov 2023, 7:51 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
Aside from computers perhaps gaining consciousness and setting off nukes or releasing bioweapons - I don't really see them as threatening individual people, since they would have to have some kind of localised weapons to do so. So perhaps a drone could kill a person via its own choice?.


I think what is flying under the radar is secret black projects developing autonomous AI that over time learn to hack systems of enemy combatants and neutralise weapons systems. Such self-thinking systems could turn around do the same to the developers and "think" in the best interests of humans in a cold objective manner like Thanos.



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04 Nov 2023, 9:16 pm

I'm more concerned about what AI could do in the hands of malicious people than I am about the AIs themselves. From my understanding (and I'm far from an expert, so correct me if I'm wrong), AIs are still pretty limited in their "thinking". The Chat AIs, for instance, just analyze language patterns and choose words that match. They can't really share opinions or advance ideas in writing because they don't have opinions or ideas of their own. There's no personality.

But AI could still be dangerous in the amount of data it could let malicious people analyze. I don't actually think they'd necessarily do a good job of that; there would probably be a lot of false positive and mistakes. But that shouldn't make anyone feel safer.