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09 Jun 2024, 6:22 pm

Romofan wrote:

Hello, all.

I am an Atheist and have zero belief in anything like Creationism. The idea that we evolved from other animals intuitively makes sense. However, I do not see how anything like Evolution as currently proposed could have worked itself out in the currently accepted timeline of existence. I KNOW how long the Earth has been around, and more importantly how long it has been able to sustain life. The kind of random mutational fluke progression/adaptation to environments as proposed would take forever. And a day. I am not convinced that there isn't some kind of intentional mechanism that guided our progress upward, call it what you will. And I hate seeing how closed minded adherence to today's accepted theory shuts down reasoned discourse.

Have a great day!

I myself hold to a divinely guided evolution.

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09 Jun 2024, 6:59 pm

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I refuse to believe that I came from a monkey.

It goes deeper. You are a monkey and so are all apes.

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09 Jun 2024, 7:02 pm

Romofan wrote:

And a day. I am not convinced that there isn't some kind of intentional mechanism that guided our progress upward, call it what you will.

Do you have proof or just faith?

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09 Jun 2024, 7:09 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

CockneyRebel wrote:

I refuse to believe that I came from a monkey.

It goes deeper. You are a monkey and so are all apes.

Hey, hey, we're the Monkees and people say we monkey around.

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10 Jun 2024, 12:35 am

Space50 wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

CockneyRebel wrote:

I refuse to believe that I came from a monkey.

It goes deeper. You are a monkey and so are all apes.

Hey, hey, we're the Monkees and people say we monkey around.

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10 Jun 2024, 12:40 am

CockneyRebel wrote:

I refuse to believe that I came from a monkey.

Yet you have no problem believing that the first human was formed from a pile of dirt.

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14 Jun 2024, 12:46 pm

As a child, I didn't believe in evolution. As an adult, I do believe, but it hasn't replaced my belief in God. I believe the 6 days of creation were never meant to be applied scientifically.

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14 Jun 2024, 12:57 pm

I'm curious, without resorting to invoking magic, what other explanation could even possibly be given?

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14 Jun 2024, 7:39 pm

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I'm curious, without resorting to invoking magic, what other explanation could even possibly be given?

Some people might be inclined to believe this fool . . .

I am glad I have a better education then that.

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14 Jun 2024, 8:03 pm

Fnord wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

I'm curious, without resorting to invoking magic, what other explanation could even possibly be given?

Some people might be inclined to believe this fool . . .

I am glad I have a better education then that.

Even that really just moves the question of the origin of life, rather than removing evolution as the mechanism by which it's current diversity came to be.

If aliens seeded earth, or if earth's life originated else where, evolution is still relevant to why life on earth exists as it exists.

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16 Jun 2024, 10:33 am

Evolution is the foundation of biology. Teaching biology without mentioning evolution would be like trying to teach electrical engineering without mentioning electricity.

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16 Jun 2024, 10:36 am

TheNet wrote:

Evolution is the alternative to creation. If the Earth didn't originate through creation, it formed through evolution which makes less sense

Does that mean that if evolution is disproven, no further proof is required to prove creation?

If evolution was disproved, would creation need to be proven independently? Or would be disproving evolution alone be enough to prove creation, without any further evidence?

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16 Jun 2024, 4:00 pm

Fnord wrote:

CockneyRebel wrote:

I refuse to believe that I came from a monkey.

Yet you have no problem believing that the first human was formed from a pile of dirt.

This dirt/clay myth seems to originate in an earlier myth, which Babylonians likewise reported in the Gilgamesh story. It can be found in many other cultures around the globe. Yet, their stories are still taken as myths, while biblical narratives seem to be taken for some weird reason very literally too often.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_ ... _from_clay

those myths can be traced even at the etymological level - the word homo in Latin and human in English stems from the "earth" component, PIE *dhgh-m-on-m, we're apparently mud beings.
https://archive.org/details/de-vaan-mic ... 5/mode/2up

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16 Jun 2024, 11:17 pm

^ Interesting.

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17 Jun 2024, 3:53 am

TheNet wrote:

It seems it bit like nonsense to me. How can life just appear from nowhere? How can the Earth form without a creator? It is like saying a house can just put itself together without any builders. Creation makes a lot more sense.

Why God would allow something like the below? Just to intentionally confuse us?

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17 Jun 2024, 4:36 am

funeralxempire wrote:

^ Interesting.

Great!

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

TheNet wrote:

Why God would allow something like the below? Just to intentionally confuse us?

Not to mention zebroids aka zorses, zonies and zonkeys/donras/zedonks...

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