Are we sure Trump won’t be President after 1/20/29?

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He is delusional. Does he have the power to change the law? He never lowered food prices as he promised.

I hope he dies soon. (Good thing this ain't reddit or I would get a suspension for citing violence)

Not sure about death, but I hope these tariffs drive him out of office. But in either case, we would be stuck with Vance, which may be worse.

All he's ever been interested in is money. His own; no one else's. He sees everyone as losers except himself.

I am now more than convinced that we, the people, are no longer capable of ruling ourselves. If it weren’t for the fact she’s already dead, I’d say let us return to the rule of Elizabeth II.

I keep telling you, she's 98 years old and she's dead.


Charles III is your new king, now to install an acceptable Prime Minister. Sadly that would appear to be Mike Johnson.

What's crazy is how he isn't already impeached.

How can you impeach him when the majority of both chambers in congress support what he's doing?

The writers of the US constitution don't seem to have considered a situation like the US is currently in, where there's extreme incompetence and criminality, but that incompetence and criminality is seen as a positive by the ruling party. Impeachment won't work and no more suitable mechanism exists (like a recall).

It does seem odd that it took until now for a corrupt US president to realise there was a way to piss all over the country (and the rest of the world) with impunity.

He's old so maybe he will die of old age.

Oops, did I just cite violence again?

^^^ Only the good die young, RIP Walrus.

They have impeached him twice and will likely do it again, if as expected the Democrats gain control of the House of Representatives in the midterms. The issue is the Senate where you need two thirds of the members to agree.

The framers of the constitution did consider mob mentality and the possibility an authoritarian king. Those possibilities were central to their thinking. Making it hard to do things was the whole point. That is why three branches of government were created and why you need two thirds of the Senate to actually kick a President out of office. The framers did anticipate that the future would bring situations they could not imagine. That is why amendments to the constitution were allowed. The system was working. New amendments were added on a regular basis despite it being a long and arduous process. That stopped over a half century ago. In August 1974 Republican congressional leadership went to President Nixon and told him he had five to ten votes against conviction. At the time there were 42 Republican Senators meaning a large majority of Republican Senators would have voted to convict, a reality then unimaginable now.

There are loopholes and unanticipated consequences in every so called foolproof system. Loopholes in the twenty second amendment is the topic of this thread. In short the loopholes are polarization combined with right wing populism. There used to be Conservative Democrats and Liberal Republicans. What we have now is Parliamentary system voting patterns in a Republic. For most part voters in Parliamentary systems vote for a party and legislators vote purely by party line.

Right wing populism has damaged the United States and Israel the most but a number of European countries are also having significant problems dealing with it. Of course one Parliamentary system infamously completely collapsed due to right wing pressure.

In all of these situations voters are choosing right wing options.

Trump has made a catastrophic mistake by insulting and attempting to bully the dragon. (China). Trump is a fool who will pay dearly for his arrogance.

In this case, no.

We've gotta stop using the Senate as a court, and use an actual court in these matters. At least whatever they did with Yoon in South Korea.

Problem is the people who were prosecuting the insurrection and classified documents cases either were fired by Trump or resigned before they were fired. In the one case where he was convicted he was given an unconditional discharge at sentencing.

As I wrote earlier in the thread it is conceivable that Trump could be held in contempt of court if he does not abide by a court decision declaring an executive order unconstitutional. I have no reason to believe that will happen.