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20 Jun 2025, 3:06 am

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Unlike Israel, Iran seems to be genuinely attacking legitimate targets.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj4edzy0vqeo



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20 Jun 2025, 3:08 am

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I personally say, let Iran wipe Israel off the map if they can. Israel doesn't have an inherent right to exist any more than the other countries in the region.


Do you sincerely believe this?



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20 Jun 2025, 3:41 am

MatchboxVagabond wrote:
Unlike Israel, Iran seems to be genuinely attacking legitimate targets.


It looks like we found Baghdad Bob:

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20 Jun 2025, 4:33 am

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Estimated radiations reach in case a total blast of Dimona reactors, at least this what this pic with no sources claimes; well...it can be BS but it's bad even if it's 1/4 the size.

It's time to prepare the kit

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What do you mean "total blast"? Is that like all of them detonating as if they were a nuclear bomb?

Does anyone really believe they could detonate like a nuclear bomb?

Or is that the spread of nuclear materials if hit by a bomb? You definitely wouldn't want to be anywhere near it if that happened.



The red zone I think indicates radiation reach, not the blast.



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20 Jun 2025, 4:44 am

That looks like it is about 550 miles across.



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20 Jun 2025, 4:45 am

Large majority of Jewish Israelis pro Iran attack, most Arab Israelis against it - IDI poll

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A large majority (80%) of Jewish Israelis support Israel’s attack on Iran, according to an Israel Democracy Institute poll released Thursday. A majority in favor of the attack holds across the political spectrum among Jewish Israelis.

Among the Arab sector, however, two-thirds opposed the attack. Overall, 70% of the Israeli population supported the attack, while just 13.5% opposed it.

The poll was conducted between June 15 and 17, just two to four days after Israel began striking in Iran leading to significant retaliation. It was conducted on a representative sample of 737 people in Israel aged 18 and up.

Asked about the timing of the attack, which came during the continuing war in Gaza and while 53 hostages are still held there, two-thirds of Jewish respondents said that the timing was appropriate.

When looking at the political breakdown, however, 55% of Jews on the Left think that the timing of the attack was wrong, as do 34% of those in the center. Some 80% of the right-wing Jewish population, on the other hand, said that the timing of the attack was appropriate, the poll found.

inappropriate.
The survey also examined public opinion on whether it was right to launch an attack without securing the express intentions of the US to join it, given claims that Iran's nuclear capabilities cannot be destroyed without American help.

More than two-thirds (69%) of Jews said that it was right. A majority of Jews on the Right and center agreed, while only 35.5% of Jews on the Left did. Just 31.5% of Arab Israelis supported attacking without US assurance while 47% think that it was wrong to attack under these circumstances.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's considerations when launching attack
Some 59.5% of the Israeli public thinks that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s considerations when launching the attack were “largely objective and security related.”

Among Jewish Israelis, some 83% agree with this, as do half from the political center, while 34% said his considerations are “mainly subjective and political,” the poll found.

On the Left, just 28% of respondents said that Netanyahu was motivated mainly by objective security-related considerations, while almost half (49%) said they believed that he was motivated mainly by subjective and political considerations.

Among Israeli Arabs, just 18.5% believe Netanyahu’s considerations are the former, while 68% think they are the latter.

Asked to what extent Israel should take the sufferings of the Iranian people into account, almost three-quarters of Jewish Israelis (73%) said “not at all or to a fairly small extent.”

The Jewish left-wing was more split on this, with 51% agreeing and 44.5% saying that they should take it into account “to a fairly large or very large extent,” as did a majority (57.5%) of Israeli Arabs.

Some 70% of the population is worried about their physical safety and the safety of their family in the future. This concern is particularly high among the Arab population, where 89% are “very” or “fairly” worried. Looking at the political breakdown among the Jewish population, some 77% of the Left, 74% of the center, and 61% of the Right are very or fairly worried.

In spite of this fear, some 82% of Israelis think that the level of resilience and fortitude of the Israeli public is very or fairly high. This belief is very common among Israelis (91.5%), but a majority of Arab Israelis feel the opposite, 53% of whom said that the level of resilience is fairly or very low.


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20 Jun 2025, 4:52 am

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So basically you would have supported the genocide of Jews during WW2?

And I'm feeling the silence here...

Who? I don't see this following from what anybody has said here. The Jews in WW2 were not going around engaging in crimes against humanity in order to drag the US, UK and Soviets into a war with Germany, Italy and Japan.


And yet you said they should all be wiped out while making up lies about Iran.

I may be just another American idiot with no valid opinion to offer on anything but at least I'm not stupid enough to fall for gaslighting like everybody else on the internet seems to be.

I'm done for real this time. I have no more use for the internet or this hateful world for that matter.


It is what it is... check your cards for "outcomes" not effects of bad actors ,Perhaps? Seems humans are not able to be anything but humans, I think . :ninja:


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20 Jun 2025, 4:53 am

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most Arab Israelis against it - IDI poll[/url]


How ironic given thousands of Palestinians have been targeted and killed by Iranian backed Shia militia in both Lebanon and Iraq.



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20 Jun 2025, 4:54 am

MatchboxVagabond wrote:
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So basically you would have supported the genocide of Jews during WW2?

And I'm feeling the silence here...

Who? I don't see this following from what anybody has said here. The Jews in WW2 were not going around engaging in crimes against humanity in order to drag the US, UK and Soviets into a war with Germany, Italy and Japan.



Well, the Soroka hospital got hit by an Iranian missile called Khaibar
I have also seen a video of the hospital's emergy speaker system got hacked and played the 'Khaibar' anthem.

I couldn't find this video anywhere else, so here is the video file to download: https://dl3.pushbulletusercontent.com/r ... 9cabad.mov

Repeating the Khaibar reference is nothing but an anti-Jewish thing, Khaibar refers to the historical event when Muhammad's army massacred Khaibar, a jewish city.

Yes, I know that the large community of jews in Iran did a statement in support of their regime, but come on...we all know they can't say otherwise. The Iranian regime pretends to hate Israelis for being Zionists, not for being Jews, but once they got agitated a bit, and all the anti-Jewish terms overflow.

Iran's previous Raisi president once said that there's some "signs" of the Holocaust that it really may have happend.



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20 Jun 2025, 4:57 am

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That looks like it is about 550 miles across.

It covers all Israel, all Lebanon, all Jordan, big chunk of Syria, part of Saudi Arabia, and to the west a part of Egypt including Cairo; edging Cyprus to the north west.



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20 Jun 2025, 5:01 am

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Large majority of Jewish Israelis pro Iran attack, most Arab Israelis against it - IDI poll
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A large majority (80%) of Jewish Israelis support Israel’s attack on Iran, according to an Israel Democracy Institute poll released Thursday. A majority in favor of the attack holds across the political spectrum among Jewish Israelis.

Among the Arab sector, however, two-thirds opposed the attack. Overall, 70% of the Israeli population supported the attack, while just 13.5% opposed it.

The poll was conducted between June 15 and 17, just two to four days after Israel began striking in Iran leading to significant retaliation. It was conducted on a representative sample of 737 people in Israel aged 18 and up.

Asked about the timing of the attack, which came during the continuing war in Gaza and while 53 hostages are still held there, two-thirds of Jewish respondents said that the timing was appropriate.

When looking at the political breakdown, however, 55% of Jews on the Left think that the timing of the attack was wrong, as do 34% of those in the center. Some 80% of the right-wing Jewish population, on the other hand, said that the timing of the attack was appropriate, the poll found.

inappropriate.
The survey also examined public opinion on whether it was right to launch an attack without securing the express intentions of the US to join it, given claims that Iran's nuclear capabilities cannot be destroyed without American help.

More than two-thirds (69%) of Jews said that it was right. A majority of Jews on the Right and center agreed, while only 35.5% of Jews on the Left did. Just 31.5% of Arab Israelis supported attacking without US assurance while 47% think that it was wrong to attack under these circumstances.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's considerations when launching attack
Some 59.5% of the Israeli public thinks that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s considerations when launching the attack were “largely objective and security related.”

Among Jewish Israelis, some 83% agree with this, as do half from the political center, while 34% said his considerations are “mainly subjective and political,” the poll found.

On the Left, just 28% of respondents said that Netanyahu was motivated mainly by objective security-related considerations, while almost half (49%) said they believed that he was motivated mainly by subjective and political considerations.

Among Israeli Arabs, just 18.5% believe Netanyahu’s considerations are the former, while 68% think they are the latter.

Asked to what extent Israel should take the sufferings of the Iranian people into account, almost three-quarters of Jewish Israelis (73%) said “not at all or to a fairly small extent.”

The Jewish left-wing was more split on this, with 51% agreeing and 44.5% saying that they should take it into account “to a fairly large or very large extent,” as did a majority (57.5%) of Israeli Arabs.

Some 70% of the population is worried about their physical safety and the safety of their family in the future. This concern is particularly high among the Arab population, where 89% are “very” or “fairly” worried. Looking at the political breakdown among the Jewish population, some 77% of the Left, 74% of the center, and 61% of the Right are very or fairly worried.

In spite of this fear, some 82% of Israelis think that the level of resilience and fortitude of the Israeli public is very or fairly high. This belief is very common among Israelis (91.5%), but a majority of Arab Israelis feel the opposite, 53% of whom said that the level of resilience is fairly or very low.


Perhaps this post reflects , What I had written above about the two religions of people being raised to believe that this War was part of their religious programming. Amongst the Jewish Israelis perhaps . Aswell as the more indoctrinated devout Moslems amongst both of the respective radicalized sects .


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20 Jun 2025, 5:09 am

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I'm done for real this time. I have no more use for the internet or this hateful world for that matter.
As requested here and via PM, CherokeeDeathRose13 has been banned from WP.


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20 Jun 2025, 5:21 am

^^^ hmmm...^^^^. seemed like just another opinion ? but I have little interaction with above .


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20 Jun 2025, 5:48 am

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A large majority (80%) of Jewish Israelis support Israel’s attack on Iran, according to an Israel Democracy Institute poll released Thursday. A majority in favor of the attack holds across the political spectrum among Jewish Israelis.


very unfortunate, Israel's civilian population also seems to have become radicalised. Again Iranian civilians don't deserve to be bombed. I hope for their sake a swift resolution can be reached.



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20 Jun 2025, 5:56 am

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A large majority (80%) of Jewish Israelis support Israel’s attack on Iran, according to an Israel Democracy Institute poll released Thursday. A majority in favor of the attack holds across the political spectrum among Jewish Israelis.


very unfortunate, Israel's civilian population also seems to have become radicalised. Again Iranian civilians don't deserve to be bombed. I hope for their sake a swift resolution can be reached.



Maybe if we could just get " OUR " politicians to listen to the voices of their own people . :ninja: ...!


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20 Jun 2025, 5:57 am

One thing that I find appalling is the ultra orthodox Jews treatment of Christians in Jerusalem and other areas. They seem to make MAGA look mild in comparison.