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29 Jun 2025, 7:17 pm

Lately, it has become fashionable to accuse schools of pushing "woke" ideologies, including critical race theory.


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29 Jun 2025, 7:22 pm

Yeahhh... I may be very religious, but I'm not conservative. I feel like the whole "everything I don't like is woke" scare shows incredible ignorance and miseducation. (Edit: also, I'm in favor of "woke" tbh.)


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29 Jun 2025, 8:12 pm

The Bible belongs in church and textbooks belong in schools.


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30 Jun 2025, 8:15 am

Meanwhile, the Supremes have decided that parents can pull their kids from public school lessons using LGBTQ books

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-cour ... 08aabc3cf9


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30 Jun 2025, 8:33 am

I don't know about the US school system much at all. I know in some countries you have Church of England and Catholic schools where children will recieve an education often on Christanity. I went to such a school and studied religious studies and so of course would have needed a Bible to study and it was welcome and I had a tremendous time learning.

I was also a child who never got the true meaning of songs. Unless an adult or someone else told me, I would be none the wiser. It is in recent years some true wordings of songs became known by me and some are still not...Wham club Tropicana what on earth was that about for example. Innocent children will not usually get a deeper meaning to some of these things unless they are abused.

How you read the Bible to is depedant on how you are...if you are a Chaste virgin you will likely won't read it the same as someone with lust in their eye who is not so chaste. There thoughts are canal minded and you need to approach the Bible spiritually minded.

A lot of the Bible is poetry and its promises as such is not destined to fall on everyone....breaking enemies neck the yoke...I doubt it in real life..but spiritually there is a war and they can be taken down in such a war which amounts to the same.
The Holy Bible is clean and you can get children's Bible's.

The Israelites themselves were severed and chosen by God and a lot of the laws and regulations in the Old Testatment are not for this generation. The New Testament can be given without doubt in religious schools to do away with dispute and the Old Testament is usually left for home life where it can be explained as a family unless you are Jewish then of course it is the Torah to at school.


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30 Jun 2025, 11:15 am

Even with the availability of Bibles, LGBTQ+ literature, and unlimited pornography, the younger generation is growing up to be more puritanical than the preceding few.

https://english.elpais.com/society/2023 ... nyway.html

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...There is a current — some call it a digital subculture — stirring the internet. They are the neo-puritans: young people, almost teenagers, scandalized by everything. With the battle cry of “Gross!” they express their hatred of sex, drugs and alcohol, but also of age-gap couples or those who date short people. They see lewdness and hypersexualization everywhere they look and are quick to label any human interaction as pedophilia. Under their watchful gaze, we are all sexual predators until proven otherwise....

...They debate on Twitter whether or not being gay is normal; on TikTok, they express their hatred of Vladimir Nabokov’s Lolita, but also, and with the same intensity, of musician Matt Healy, Taylor Swift’s ex-boyfriend, for “leading her astray,” as well as Jenna Ortega, because one day she was seen smoking. They belong to the generation that has been most exposed to unlimited free pornography in history, and yet – or perhaps because of this – #cancelporn seems to be one of their favorite hashtags. Their standards are inflexible.

The internet calls them puriteens and they suffer from a kind of hair-rising fear and aversion to sex and intimacy. According to the Urban Dictionary, a puriteen is an online child who “proactively demands that people curtail behavior that they interpret as sexually suggestive.” Other definitions speak of a very young internet user who is upset by any kind of sexual manifestation, however restrained and mild it may be. They have been seen on TikTok moralizing about the aberrational age gaps they believe exist among adult heterosexual couples; on Tinder, they call for BDSM accessories to be banned from gay pride parades....



I noticed it myself.


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30 Jun 2025, 4:59 pm

I definitely see them in my fandom spaces.


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01 Jul 2025, 6:17 am

That's an infinite loop.

The religious mind:
- Banning Bible for being sexually explicity
- But banning bible makes kids more prone to be sexually immoral
- Bringing back bible to school
- Banning it again...



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01 Jul 2025, 8:41 am

Schools are under a lot of pressure these days. Nothing that could be interpreted as "woke." Nothing that might potentially cause White children to feel ashamed of their race. No unhealthy messages concerning gender and consent. No LGBLT+ issues. Nothing that might diminish patriotism.

I don't know what the kids are reading, but it must be awfully bland. Probably carefully-curated young-adult fantasy novels. Nothing that any delicate parent might choose to deem offensive. If they are reading the Bible, then it must be a heavily bowdlerized translation.

No wonder teens have been raised to be so judgy and puritanical.


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01 Jul 2025, 8:56 am

Many books in the literary canon are more appropriate than the Bible and would be suitable for children and young adults. Do you find those books bland? Does a book have to contain a lot of sex and violence to be interesting?

Teachers don’t limit themselves to works in the literary canon. They know what kids like. Harry Potter, award winners, and even just giving kids the option to read what they want within reason are some things that teachers think about.



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01 Jul 2025, 9:25 am

I've noticed that they're fine with violence. The more the merrier.


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01 Jul 2025, 9:31 am

Btw, the Hogwarts Legacy game is brutally violent: Bombarda!! **Goblins explode in pieces**



https://www.reddit.com/r/HarryPotterGam ... acter_has/

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01 Jul 2025, 9:45 am

Honey69 wrote:
I've noticed that they're fine with violence. The more the merrier.
No, they’re typically cautious with violence as well.



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01 Jul 2025, 9:51 am

Are these books banned from schools?

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/134 ... en_s_Books


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01 Jul 2025, 9:56 am

No, but none of those children’s books are remotely close to how gratuitously violent portions of the Bible and some other books for adults are.



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01 Jul 2025, 9:58 am

Here’s another passage from the Hebrew Scriptures that is extremely inappropriate for children although many others are cited in this thread:

While they were enjoying themselves, the men of the city, a perverse lot, surrounded the house and started pounding on the door. They said to the old man, the master of the house, “Bring out the man who came into your house, so that we may have intercourse with him.” 23 And the man, the master of the house, went out to them and said to them, “No, my brothers, do not act so wickedly. Since this man is my guest, do not do this vile thing. 24 Here are my virgin daughter and his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish them and do whatever you want to them, but against this man do not do such a vile thing.” 25 But the men would not listen to him. So the man seized his concubine and put her out to them. They wantonly raped her and abused her all through the night until the morning. And as the dawn began to break, they let her go. 26 As morning appeared, the woman came and fell down at the door of the man’s house where her master was, until it was light.

27 In the morning her master got up, opened the doors of the house, and when he went out to go on his way, there was the woman, his concubine, lying at the door of the house, with her hands on the threshold. 28 “Get up,” he said to her, “we are going.” But there was no answer. Then he put her on the donkey, and the man set out for his home. 29 When he had entered his house, he took a knife, and grasping his concubine he cut her into twelve pieces, limb by limb, and sent her throughout all the territory of Israel.

What about kids who experience SA and then come across passages like this?
“If there is a young woman, a virgin already engaged to be married, and a man meets her in the town and lies with her, 24 you shall bring both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death, the young woman because she did not cry for help in the town and the man because he violated his neighbor’s wife. So you shall purge the evil from your midst.
“If a man meets a virgin who is not engaged and seizes her and lies with her, and they are discovered, 29 the man who lay with her shall give fifty shekels of silver to the young woman’s father, and she shall become his wife. Because he violated her, he shall not be permitted to divorce her as long as he lives.
It’s not just the fact that it’s sexually explicit, but the sexual violence and promotion of rape/rape culture throughout the Bible make it extremely inappropriate for children for that reason.

Rampant bigotry also makes it inappropriate for schools.

The New Testament has toxic passages centered around gender roles that would be questionable to have around in a school setting, especially given the fact that it’s not viewed as just some other book containing the views of ancient bigots. Do we want to promote sexism in our schools? I doubt it.

Paul’s Problematic Views of Women

Other Problematic New Testament Writings on Women

This certainly isn’t stuff that I would want a young daughter reading. Well, it’s not something I wanted my son to read, either, not without him being mature enough to understand context. I wanted him to view women as full equals and any relationship he might have with a woman, if he’s straight, as an equal partnership with no idiotic headship business. Of course, I also had concerns about some of the passages people cite to uphold homophobia as well. A couple of those passages are in the New Testament. They aren’t so clear cut as people make them out to be, but just reading available translations, kids would likely come to bigoted conclusions, especially if there’s generational bigotry in their family as there often is.