Democratic Socialist anti zionist wins NYC mayor Dem primary

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I think there's at least as much danger -- and probably much more danger -- of violence from JDL-like pro-Zionist fanatics. After all, they are the ones who would be very upset by a Mamdani victory and would thus have the most likely motive to respond with violence.

I don’t expect a Mamhandi mayoralty to be openly antisemitic or thinly disguised antisemitic. I expect him to show up in support at scenes of antisemitic incidents etc. He will do this without giving up core anti zionist principles.

OTOH I do expect some people to interpret his election as a signal for violence against zionists in general and Jews in particular. In that way it will resemble groups such as the Proud Boys interpreting Trump’s remarks as signals. With Trump we have 10 years of experience to conclude he is deliberately signaling his “patriots”. Mamdani is new to the scene it is too soon to judge. If Mamdani does deliberately signal it won’t be as blatantly obvious, he is a wholly different personality.

Unfortunately the man is going to require a degree of security unheard of for previous mayors. Just dealing with elections that do not go our way is not a thing we do anymore. The radicalization of the Jewish community especially since October 7th has been endlessly documented on this site. I can easily envision Mamdani coming to support Jews after an incident and being disrupted or worse. This will further solidify the image of Jews as ungrateful selfish bastards.

The United Federation of Teachers has endorsed Democratic candidate Zohran Mamdani in the New York City mayor's race.

Of the union's more than 200,000 members, 63% supported a resolution to back the Queens assemblyman, CBS News New York's Lisa Rozner reported Wednesday.

"As a union, we have to protect public education, public employees, and public service from attacks from Washington, D.C. We have to make New York City safer and more affordable for working- and middle-class families. We have to make the jobs of educators and nurses more attractive with better pay and benefits, and retain those already doing the work. We need a mayor who understands the task before us and who will help us get it done. The UFT Delegate Assembly has determined that Zohran Mamdani can be that partner as the next mayor of New York City," UFT president Michael Mulgrew said in a statement.

The UFT's support for Mamdani follows an endorsement from the Manhattan Democratic Party earlier in the week, the latest in a string of nods for the Democratic socialist. Last week, he garnered the endorsements of the Hotel and Gaming Trades Council, New York State Nurses Association and New York City Central Labor Council, AFL-CIO.

Endorsement comes amid calls for independents to shake up the race
The endorsements for Mamdani come as former New York Gov. David Paterson called on Adams and Cuomo to shake up the mayor's race by unifying to defeat Mamdani, suggesting one of them bow out so the other can set up a clear challenge and avoid splitting the vote.

Political expert J.C. Polanco says the latest polling shows Mamdani at 35%, with the opposition candidates splitting the rest of the vote.

"Remember, you don't need a majority of the vote in order to become mayor of New York City. All you need is the plurality," Polanco said. "When all of those candidates coalesce, then, yes, Mamdani can be defeated in November. But from the looks of it, ego, hubris the idea of what if has taken over and none of those men is thinking of dropping out."

Polanco said if they want to defeat Mamdani they need to rally behind a single candidate, before it's too late.

I'm genuinely curious...is there any form of evidence that Mamdani is anti zionist? All I've seen is just media, political opponents and other ignorant/bigoted people trying to smear/misrepresent him.

Context:Mamdani has said that Israel has a right to exist, but has dodged questions about whether that means existing as a Jewish state.

Quote: Pressed during the Democratic mayoral debate in June, Mamdani said “I believe Israel has the right to exist.”

“As a Jewish state?” the moderator asked.

“As a state with equal rights,” he replied.

Context: During a June interview with the Fox 5 show Good Day New York, Mamdani explained why he wouldn’t recognize Israel as a “Jewish” state.

Quote: “I’m not comfortable supporting any state that has a hierarchy of citizenship on the basis of religion or anything else … Equality should be enshrined in every country in the world. That’s my belief.”

I read your link. Nothing there actually suggests that he's an antisemitic or even anti zionist. Most of all the points made in the article, he's kinda on message...for human rights, and equal rights.

Just like in your quote, Israel should be a state with equal rights. I find that based. But I am against etnostates/apartheid. I don't think states should be built on oppression. Theocracy, I also find to be a poor choice. Take Iran as an example.

Another thought - have you(everybody) considered that New Yorkers might have voted in their own interest and the well being of a small country far away didn't even factor in, when making their minds up?

If you believe Jews have a right to their own state you are a Zionist, if you are against the idea you are anti zionist.

Many people believe that if you do not believe the Jews have a right to a state you are antisemitic. I disagree with that. What Mamdani is doing by not specifically saying he is against or for a Jewish state is trying to allay fears of voters that are inclined to support him but fear he is antisemitic without losing anti zionist voters. He said he is against a hierarchical state. By definition a Jewish state is hierarchical, in one way or another all nation states are.

I live in the New York area while most of coverage surrounding Mamdani is about Israel, Gaza, and Jews they did talk about the his main campaign message being affordability.

You kind gives the argument for why we have chosen democracy, a form representative government of the people. And that's why the government should be for the people. Without equal rights it's going to get harder to justify laws of the country, similar to how international law doesn't matter anymore.
You could argue being a jewish zionist is antisemitic. If you are jewish and believe in equal rights, then by those people's reasoning they are antisemitic?
To me it sounds very similar to the reasoning of Hitler, he claimed to be for the german people. But which people do he consider to be german?...Who are not people?...Trump claims to want to make America great again. Apparently that does not include every American nor does everybody have to be met with humanity.



That was my point. The coverage is far from speaking any kind of truth or trying to represent majority of public interest/opinion of New Yorkers.
I saw very recent polling of his politics. They are unbelievable popular in New York, like in the rest of the country.
I might be wrong but wasn't 16% of Mamdani's votes come from jewish voters?

In my opinion, it was more his doing as a skilled politician. Mainly because the media tried the playbook we could see in Britain and the removal of Jeremy Corbin. Isn't that the reason behind why Trump is floating the idea of de-naturalize Mamdani's citizenship? Trying to make the argument that some song lyrics is material support of terrorism.

If you believe Jews have a right to their own state you are a Zionist, if you are against the idea you are anti zionist.

Many people believe that if you do not believe the Jews have a right to a state you are antisemitic. I disagree with that. What Mamdani is doing by not specifically saying he is against or for a Jewish state is trying to allay fears of voters that are inclined to support him but fear he is antisemitic without losing anti zionist voters. He said he is against a hierarchical state. By definition a Jewish state is hierarchical, in one way or another all nation states are.

My take on this is a bit different. I don't think Anti-Zionism is antisemitic per se. However given all the injustice around the world and evil things being done to people militarily, that if somebody makes a point of constantly talking about Zionism and how evil it is, given that if Zionism were to be defeated (which can only happen militarily) then millions of Jews would be grievously harmed, then they must have some issues with Jews in general, although it would be impossible to prove this in the case of any individual. As a non-New Yorker, given that this is a near-constant theme that comes up when Mamdani's name appears in popular media, I can't bring myself to trust him to not have some sort of judgmental sentiments regarding Jews; just like people in Europe who say they aren't antisemitic, but don't hesitate to repeat traditional antisemitic tropes that are popular in their countries.

My take on this is a bit different. I don't think Anti-Zionism is antisemitic per se. However given all the injustice around the world and evil things being done to people militarily

that if somebody makes a point of constantly talking about Zionism and how evil it is, given that if Zionism were to be defeated (which can only happen militarily) then millions of Jews would be grievously harmed,

@Mona & @ FXE please understand that my remarks aren't intended as a discussion point just a statement of my personal opinion in case anyone was confused about that.