When is it "right" to interfere with with another country?

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Interesting thing here , facts omitted or ignored about history , Gulf of Tonkin, i think was were it happened staged a false flag attack attack on one of its ships off the coast of Veit Nam , and of course it followed , not liking spread of communism . It was not smart . So then came the Veit Nam War . We Lost that one . To a much more inventive enemy
Not even withstanding ,the numerous advisors we sent in there to stir the pot . Under all sorts of pretenses. Even medical ones to help the civilian population and to mobile indigenous ground forces. Not to even consider Chinas minimal involvement. Supplying equipment to NVA . It was a jungle War. More the jungle defeated US there. Stupid US military ground doctrine . btw here, did anyone consider huge parts of Venezuala are JUNGLE . The US poisoned its own troops ( en Masse ) with the defolient Agent Orange. Attempting to even the odds of jungle warfare.
So most likely will be no troops trying to conquer jungle bases. Drones do not work well in forest, even Hegseth, avknowledged that . it would be a high casualty interaction. Maduro lived in a city, not the jungle.
US press confessed about many installations of Venezualan jungle bases. Trump needs a War to stay in Office. Wartime powers act etc. type of stuff.

Perhaps lets go back to WW2 days .. the incongruencies there are more than any human could tolerate . The atrocities, seriously unthinkable . Prison camps ,railroads into them, gas chambers, poison gas. OOOps. did I forget those railroad cars that went to those camps carrying thousands of humans. And the tracks into those camps.Had to be BUILT .
( see history of railroad tracks into Dachua)
And you might never guess those tracks were directly import from the USA made in our own Iron smelting plants .
Or perhaps All those ballistic rocket designs Germans made ? Werner von Braun father of Germanys ability to bombard England helping to institute our Rocket program was a loyal Nazi . Or mayge it just that Bayuer ( Bayer) aspirin
vompany studied about testing aspirin and etc. Chemical warfare components on those incarserated human in those camps. (a thriving chemical company in Europe and USA).Never dismantled or prosecueted as a company.
All these different little decisions to do these things. All by the everso competint leadership in the USA .Might look up
WW2 Operation Paperclip to see more incredulous things and persons that avoided WW2 prosecuetion.
Sorry to be so long . ironys sometimes that occur take a long time to manifest .
{ In Memory of All those Soldiers who made it back from War but never came Home to a respectful Country and even then it cost them , their lives Anyhow}

I think this is a distraction from the enhanced Obamacare subsidies ending at the 1st of January.
If you earn $1 more than 400% of the poverty level in the USA, your subsidies just went away!
This can be a HUGE hit to your bank account, easily $500 or $1000 per MONTH! It is money people don't have.
About 2 million people will see a huge hit.
About 20million will be impacted financially.

This doesn't affect most Americans on this site, as we don't earn that much money.
Or we have good tech jobs that provide health insurance.

Not the first time for the USA. From Wikipedia
The 1993 Apology Resolution by the US Congress concedes that "the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii occurred with the active participation of agents and citizens of the United States

He was a totally illegitimate "head of state". We had just as much right to go after him as we did Bin Laden.

And qouted from posts above :

Not the first time for the USA. From Wikipedia
The 1993 Apology Resolution by the US Congress concedes that "the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii occurred with the active participation of agents and citizens of the United States

This one above..poking our noses ,where we just do not belong Conquering Hawaii . And the way , to further qualify the above post , more clearly ,
The kidnapping of Maduro ! timed to coincide with" the removal / ending of the Average persons ability to afford Healthcare . Kinda coincidental How Trump took the spotlight off , " His" ending of life saving benefits to thousands of Americans .
In favour of the Maduro kidnap extravaganza . ( you can see which one made the news)

From an outside perspective, the US left are trying to preserve democracy and world order while Trumplefish is attempting to dismantle both.

Remember when both Russia and China toyed with the idea of democratic capitalism?
They went another way, and somehow managed to drag the USA along for the ride.

"Totally illegitimate" in what way?


Really? Did he sponsor a major terrorist attack here in the U.S.A.? Not as far as I can tell.

Bin Laden was a fugitive

Do you know how many "illegitimate" heads of state are there in the world?

And who appointed trump global policeman?

Yep.

It's also a distraction from the Epstein files.

I honestly don't know how many there are in the world. I doubt many of them directly contribute to the deaths of thousands of American citizens a year as Maduro did though.

Venezuela isn't even on the following list of 9 Major Drug Trafficking Countries of the World (as of 2022). I did find Venezuela mentioned on some other pages about drug trafficking worldwide, but only as one of a fairly large bunch of countries.

In any case, kidnapping a head of state is a totally unprecedented way of dealing with this issue.

And none of them talk about the protests in Iran going on now, notice how the Iranian opposition is barely covered in mainstream media and press; because it doesn’t serve well their narrative (Iranian regime = good). The same “Free Palestine” people will not hit the street for the sake of the Iranian civilians being killed in protests because they view them as “pro-West”.

Even in my country the Communists and other Leftist movements are organizing a protest in front of the local UN HQ for Maduro; these hypocrites care for the human rights of a dictator thousands of miles away more than a nearby people (especially WOMEN) who were being killed and oppressed for decades.

I was even been accused by some radical leftist members here on WP (like that rude one with the grey cat avatar who disappeared) for me being too critical on the Iranian regime and that the latter isn’t as bad as I am portraying well and it is Israel only which is the pure evil; well guess what… the Iranians proved me I was right all along and they were so wrong; I did warn that my stances reflect the majority of the population, not the videos of Georges Galloway praising the regime; the likes of them just refuse to listen.

Whose "narrative" is that? (Besides the Iranian government's, obviously?)

I personally have not seen any American journalist, on any part of the political spectrum, say that the Iranian regime = good. (Admittedly I might be missing something -- I don't follow every American journalist.)

It's true that the "mainstream press" has not been paying a lot of attention to Iran lately. I think the most likely explanation of that is simply that there is too much else going on right now.

Lately, it seems to me that Trump has been creating multiple distractions in an effort to keep himself out of trouble, and these distractions have had the effect drowning out not only Trump's crimes, but also other important things that are going on.


What you say above is likely true for many (not all) pro-Palestine activists, but probably not for the "mainstream press."


Agreed that the Iranian government has been doing horrible things to its own people.

Unfortunately, I wouldn't trust the U.S. government to intervene in a way that is actually helpful. For example, when we invaded Iraq back in 2003, we got rid of a brutal dictator, but then the resulting chaos gave birth to ISIL. The U.S. government has not managed to pull off a truly benevolent occupation since the occupations of Japan and West Germany after World War II.

And all the more so would I not trust Trump to intervene in a way that is actually helpful.


I just now Googled "Georges Galloway" (who I am unfamiliar with). Yes, he praises Iran for being the only regional power that is standing up against Israel. This is not a perspective we see very often here in the U.S.A., even among leftists.

Anyhow, it seems to me that more than one thing can be true at the same time. Iran is a theocratic tyranny, yes. But it also seems to me that the very worst thing that has been happening in the Middle East lately has been Israel's genocide of Palestinians in Gaza. Furthermore, the latter is something that the U.S. government could much more easily put a stop to than the former, if only our government had the political will to do so.

The radical Left + pro-Iran Jihadits. Those two are always in sync.



I certainly came across many actually; more video bloggers than journalists.



I don't think so, such lack of coverage is never a coincidence.

By mainstream press I am referring to Left-leaning press like The Guardian, CSS, the JPost, BCC. The massive protests started on 28 December 2025, yet it barely started to get convered after more than a week, and probably only after Trump threatened the Iranian regime.

It's not like I am imagining this in my head, many others took notice of that https://honestreporting.com/how-western ... -iranians/



Indeed not all pro-palestine activists are Radical Left/Jihadits but the latters are often the loudest and the ones who LEAD and ORAGNIZE the solidatary protests.

Iran was having massive bloody protests since 2009, not even once, these people had organized solidatary protests except the Iranians themselves living abroad.

2009–2010 Iranian presidential election protests
2011–2012 Iranian protests
2016 Cyrus the Great Revolt
2017–2018 Iranian protests
2018–2019 Iranian general strikes and protests
2019–2020 Iranian protests
Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752 protests
2021–2022 Iranian protests
2022 Iranian food protests
2022–2023 Mahsa Amini protests
Woman, Life, Freedom movement
2025 Iran water crisis protests (May–August)
2025–2026 Iranian protests

Never, nil.



Georges Galloway doesn't just praise Iran because "it is standing up against Israel", he praises Iran for everything even for its interference in other countries, and often he insults the majority will who doesn't adopt his narrative.

Like for example he literally called 79% of Lebanese as "traitors" for wanting to disarm Hezbollah, a proxy foreign entity which is completely loyal to Iran and always dragged us to unecessary wars.


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https://news.gallup.com/poll/699071/leb ... apons.aspx

Georges Galloway has a lot of followers, thouands and maybe even millions of radical Leftits around the world are fans of him. He is not just a 1 isolated case of Radical Leftism and their love of opressive jihadist regimes.

They get humanitarian depending on the identity of the victims and the opporessor - case by case; their moral compass is very questionable.

Check this idiot for instance

Ironically, communists in Iran were all executed.

Here something @Mona you may have to listen.


https://x.com/dahliakurtz/status/201016 ... 88786?s=46

The Left’s silence on what is going on in Iran is no longer a taboo to criticize.
I always sensed their favoritism for the Iranian regime in their discourse but it was hard to prove.
But now it got exposed in the ugliest way possible.

Here an Iranian American LGTQ guy talking about it:

https://x.com/matthewnouriel/status/201 ... 72890?s=46


« When Is It "Right" To Interfere With With Another Country?« 

When one group slaughters another group in that another country.
And when an oppressive regime slaughters its own people.

In that case, it would be Gaza-Israel and…. Iran itself.
See, it is not hard to be morally consistent.