Is it anti-semetic....

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to dislike and not want to support Zionists?

I wouldn't think it was given the different definitions but I've had various Jewish people consider me such. To not support Israel means I don't support the Jewish culture, history, and people but how is that?

Do you think that Zionism is now a word interchangeable with the word Jews these days? I guess I could see angry people using the word Zionists in place of Jewish no matter the cause. But curiously when I use the word Zionism I don't mean Jewish or the people born in Israel since many generations have already been born into it. I mean I guess it would be like everyone telling the white Americans to get out of America after it was taken from the Natives of America. I am still unsure of a better way to put it.

Just curious of anyone's thoughts. Is considered anti-semetic to not want to support Israel and the regime it was born out of? And to what purpose does the U.S. support Israel?

To me, it is.

How so?

Antisemitic was explained to me as "antisemitism is the belief that all Jews are evil because a couple thousand years ago a few of them got him[Christ] killed." Zionism is just the belief that Jewish people should get their original land back. In short, it's perfectly fine to be against Zionism, although it might help to say the definition of Zionism rather than just Zionism.

What do you mean anti-zionist? You don't believe Israel has the right to exist?

No I don't.

Let me ask this before answering - what are your thoughts on Native American nations/reservations?


M.

No it is not. There are Jews out there who are against Zionism. There are also Jews who do not support the actions of the state of Israel.

nope in no way is being anti zionism anti semetic, f**k all the bad steroetypes of jews come from zionism; and lets face it what the israelis note i;m not saying jews, is pretty much mass theft and degredation of palestine; its not just that they were invaded and fought back i take and understand that, what i don;t understand is the need to lock palestinians up in reservations; if the usa did that to an american ethnic group (say the japanese) there would be outrage

also jews aren;t the only semetic groups out there, definitions of the terms would be useful, for me israeli does not = jew
Although passport control and immigration in israeli clearly want this to become a reality, kinda racist that sort of zionism

It's sad and upsetting to know they had to be forced off their land to make room for white man's unsavory power and lust for civilization in the form of greed. Now they are left with plots of land that were hardly viable to even live off of or the lands in which they were accustom to living on.

What do I think of modern Israel? I don't hate or have anything against the modern Israelites, in fact the same question could be asked of the modern Americans. What I'm against is nationalists who support a regime that had kicked off the people who lived there for thousands of years. I do not support in the way the land was taken.

So you think Israel should be destroyed?

Isn't it essentially the same issue? Those who settled modern Israel are considered descendants, one way or another, of a tribe that lived there in the past. Do you begrudge those Native Americans who fought for their land despite the claims of another people upon it? The complaints are the same, just two different sides of that issue... whose sense of entitlement wins out over another's.


M.

look at the timescale (thousand years and 200 yrs) mind

Two wrongs don't make a right do they?

Last edited by MissConstrue on 01 Jun 2010, 6:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Indeed.