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25 Feb 2011, 6:01 am

Lets talk more positive, lets start a thread about God's grace and how you feel about it, at this time we are living under God's grace.

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25 Feb 2011, 6:02 am

woodss82 wrote:

Lets talk more positive, lets start a thread about God's grace and how you feel about it, at this time we are living under God's grace.

You are presuming the existence of God for which there is not an iota of empirical evidence.

You might has well talk about Luck.

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25 Feb 2011, 6:34 am

What God's grace, man? I don't see no gawd damn grace! All I see is dead people around here.

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25 Feb 2011, 6:38 am

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What God's grace, man? I don't see no gawd damn grace! All I see is dead people around here.

Do you claim you are exchanging electronic messages with dead people? That's odd.

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25 Feb 2011, 7:16 am

I actually meant here in real life outside of the world of the Internet. I think I have the sixth sense.

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25 Feb 2011, 8:30 am

Thank God, who in his infinite grace create explosive bloody diarrhea! Oh God most Graceful, O God most wise...

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25 Feb 2011, 9:34 am

woodss82 wrote:

... at this time we are living under God's grace.

Have any of us ever lived any other way?!

Me thinks not!

(KJV-1611) But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

(The Scriptures (ISR)) But Noaḥ found favour in the eyes of יהוה.

Genesis 6:8

(ASV) But Noah found favor in the eyes of Jehovah.

(BBE) But Noah had grace in the eyes of God.

(CEV) But the LORD was pleased with Noah,

(DRB) But Noe found grace before the Lord.

(ESV) But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD.

(GNB) But the LORD was pleased with Noah.

(GW) But the LORD was pleased with Noah.

(JPS) But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

(KJV) But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

(KJV-1611) But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

(LITV) And Noah found grace in the eyes of Jehovah.

(MKJV) But Noah found grace in the eyes of Jehovah.

(RNKJV) But Noah found favour in the eyes of YHWH.

(RV) But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

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25 Feb 2011, 9:37 am

I think God is very patient with us, to have us to accept his son.
Thats what I think, Jesus has plead everyone of us with his life.

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25 Feb 2011, 9:45 am

I cannot even begin to enumerate instances of grace.

But a key factor in my change of orientation was a very carefully documented and reasoned academic and non-theistic study postulating the existence of grace.

And the dwarfs may call it luck if they choose. There but for the grace of God go I, after all.

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25 Feb 2011, 9:49 am

woodss82 wrote:

I think God is very patient with us, to have us to accept his son.
Thats what I think, Jesus has plead everyone of us with his life.

I do understand today's Christian doctrine saying Jesus has with his life plead everyone to accept him as God's son ...
... but there is really nothing new there other than some pandering spin.

Grace always has been, still is and will always be present among obedient men.

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25 Feb 2011, 9:57 am

leejosepho wrote:

woodss82 wrote:

I think God is very patient with us, to have us to accept his son.
Thats what I think, Jesus has plead everyone of us with his life.

Not only the obedient, amigo, NOT only the obedient. Thank God.

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25 Feb 2011, 10:10 am

leejosepho wrote:

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I think God is very patient with us, to have us to accept his son.
Thats what I think, Jesus has plead everyone of us with his life.

Then from whence obedience? And what is the nature of grace?

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25 Feb 2011, 10:20 am

Philologos wrote:

leejosepho wrote:

woodss82 wrote:

I think God is very patient with us, to have us to accept his son.
Thats what I think, Jesus has plead everyone of us with his life.

Not only the obedient, amigo, NOT only the obedient. Thank God.

At least for the obedient, however ... and that is as far as I wanted to stick out my own neck at that moment!

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25 Feb 2011, 10:21 am

Natty_Boh wrote:

Then from whence obedience?

Torah seems to cover that fairly well! :wink:

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And what is the nature of grace?

As I understand things: unmerited favour.

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25 Feb 2011, 10:28 am

leejosepho wrote:

Natty_Boh wrote:

Then from whence obedience?

Torah seems to cover that fairly well! :wink:

Under the New Law, not the Old. But even in the Old - the first move was God's, obedience was a necessarily second step.

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25 Feb 2011, 10:33 am

Natty_Boh wrote:

leejosepho wrote:

Natty_Boh wrote:

Then from whence obedience?

Torah seems to cover that fairly well! :wink:

Under the New Law, not the Old.

Show me any difference!

The Messiah practiced Torah perfectly -- until heaven and earth have passed away, eh?! -- and he never suggested anyone else ever do any less.

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