Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Bin Laden

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03 May 2011, 10:53 pm

The article is easily believable but the source is questionable, so for now I'm only going to call this plausible.



Note:This update comes some 24 hours after our longtime Washington D.C. Insider first outlined shocking details of an Obama administration having been “overruled” by senior military and intelligence officials leading up to the successful attack against terrorist Osama Bin Laden. What follows is further clarification of Insider’s insights surrounding that event.

Q: You stated that President Obama was “overruled” by military/intelligence officials regarding the decision to send in military specialists into the Osama Bin Laden compound. Was that accurate?

A: I was told – in these exact terms, “we overruled him.” (Obama) I have since followed up and received further details on exactly what that meant, as well as the specifics of how Leon Panetta worked around the president’s “persistent hesitation to act.” There appears NOT to have been an outright overruling of any specific position by President Obama, simply because there was no specific position from the president to do so. President Obama was, in this case, as in all others, working as an absentee president.

I was correct in stating there had been a push to invade the compound for several weeks if not months, primarily led by Leon Panetta, Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, David Petraeus, and Jim Clapper. The primary opposition to this plan originated from Valerie Jarrett, and it was her opposition that was enough to create uncertainty within President Obama. Obama would meet with various components of the pro-invasion faction, almost always with Jarrett present, and then often fail to indicate his position. This situation continued for some time, though the division between Jarrett/Obama and the rest intensified more recently, most notably from Hillary Clinton. She was livid over the president’s failure to act, and her office began a campaign of anonymous leaks to the media indicating such. As for Jarrett, her concern rested on two primary fronts. One, that the military action could fail and harm the president’s already weakened standing with both the American public and the world. Second, that the attack would be viewed as an act of aggression against Muslims, and further destabilize conditions in the Middle East.

The rest is here. It's long but defiitely worth the read:

http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden


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03 May 2011, 11:04 pm

Ulsterman stuff is pretty much complete fiction John.



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03 May 2011, 11:22 pm

Quite frankly, I never heard of the guy and I don't find the MSM any more reputable, so I listed it as plausible and I'm going to wait and see.


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03 May 2011, 11:23 pm

If true, that's pretty clever from a political standpoint - if it was a success, as it was, Obama can claim the credit, while if it failed, he could blame Panetta and fire him.



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03 May 2011, 11:41 pm

The article says Obama was "pulled from a golf game" to go to the meeting. There's independent confirmation that he left a golf course too suddenly to change out of his golf shoes:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42874398/ns ... bin_laden/

I would think maybe if he'd already known there was an attack on bin Laden in progress, he might not have scheduled a golf outing conflicting with a critical meeting, but I could be wrong about that.

In the photo at the beginning of the original article, Obama does have a kind of a suspicious expression, as if he is looking at a plan he wasn't previously aware of, while everyone else in the room does look pretty comfortable, like they know what is going on.

I would say the facts in the article sound pretty plausible, though characterizing it as a 'coup' goes more than a bit overboard.



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03 May 2011, 11:45 pm

This thread is like dungeons and dragons for wingnuts.



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03 May 2011, 11:50 pm

simon_says wrote:
This thread is like dungeons and dragons for wingnuts.


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04 May 2011, 12:02 am

simon_says wrote:
This thread is like dungeons and dragons for wingnuts.



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04 May 2011, 12:29 am

simon_says wrote:
This thread is like dungeons and dragons for wingnuts.

I take exception to that - I always make sure my NPCs have believable motivations in my D&D games...


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04 May 2011, 12:34 am

DeaconBlues wrote:
simon_says wrote:
This thread is like dungeons and dragons for wingnuts.

I take exception to that - I always make sure my NPCs have believable motivations in my D&D games...


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04 May 2011, 2:39 am

psychohist wrote:
The article says Obama was "pulled from a golf game" to go to the meeting. There's independent confirmation that he left a golf course too suddenly to change out of his golf shoes:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42874398/ns ... bin_laden/

I would think maybe if he'd already known there was an attack on bin Laden in progress, he might not have scheduled a golf outing conflicting with a critical meeting, but I could be wrong about that.

In the photo at the beginning of the original article, Obama does have a kind of a suspicious expression, as if he is looking at a plan he wasn't previously aware of, while everyone else in the room does look pretty comfortable, like they know what is going on.

I would say the facts in the article sound pretty plausible, though characterizing it as a 'coup' goes more than a bit overboard.

He certainly didn't look dressed and ready for a photo op in when he was in the war room during the mission, and he was the only one that looked really pissed off.


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04 May 2011, 12:09 pm

The US has a secret government: they are responsible for 9/11, JFK's assassination (he was murdered ten days after he demanded access to USA's UFO files).

It's probably the Skull&Bones, Bohemian Grove, 33rd degree freemasonry clique.



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04 May 2011, 12:14 pm

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04 May 2011, 12:17 pm

DeaconBlues wrote:
I take exception to that - I always make sure my NPCs have believable motivations in my D&D games...

Clearly Obama's player is a munchkin rather than a roleplayer.



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05 May 2011, 12:23 am

Notice that Obama is dressed to go golfing, not to address one of the biggest historical moments of hid career, and he looks really unhappy compared to everyone else in the room.

[img][800:642]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/03/article-1382859-0BE03DE700000578-150_964x642.jpg[/img]


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05 May 2011, 12:24 am

I don't think any of them look happy