Why are Jews the most famous victims of the holocaust?

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Why are Jews got the most sympathy out of holocaust?
Because Jews are weaker than other people, hence they hurt more 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Because Jews are weaker than other people, hence they hurt more 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Because there are fewer Jews than other ppl, hence similar numbers will imply bigger proportion 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Because there are fewer Jews than other ppl, hence similar numbers will imply bigger proportion 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Given that Zionist movement dates back to 19-th century, Jews simply seized an apportunity to use the holocaust for that purpose 6%  6%  [ 3 ]
Given that Zionist movement dates back to 19-th century, Jews simply seized an apportunity to use the holocaust for that purpose 6%  6%  [ 3 ]
Jews are the only ppl who don't have their own country, hence they are the ones where something needs to be done to prevent future holocaust, hence more publicity 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Jews are the only ppl who don't have their own country, hence they are the ones where something needs to be done to prevent future holocaust, hence more publicity 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Given that Hitler have written Mein Kamph about Jews, but Japaneeze didn't write anything about Coreans, Hitler simply drew more attention to himself 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Given that Hitler have written Mein Kamph about Jews, but Japaneeze didn't write anything about Coreans, Hitler simply drew more attention to himself 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Since Americans hate Coreans, they ignored Corean holocaust; similarly they probably hate other non-Jewish groups whom Hitler was exterminating, and thus ignored them too 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Since Americans hate Coreans, they ignored Corean holocaust; similarly they probably hate other non-Jewish groups whom Hitler was exterminating, and thus ignored them too 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
A lot of Jews have important positions in media and elsewhere which gave them more apportunity to publicize their own plight 10%  10%  [ 5 ]
A lot of Jews have important positions in media and elsewhere which gave them more apportunity to publicize their own plight 10%  10%  [ 5 ]
Since Jews are god's chosen people, the Christians decided to express more sympathy to them than to others 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Since Jews are god's chosen people, the Christians decided to express more sympathy to them than to others 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Given that Jews were persecutted for 2000 years, the holocaust was simply the "last straw that broke the camel's back" 10%  10%  [ 5 ]
Given that Jews were persecutted for 2000 years, the holocaust was simply the "last straw that broke the camel's back" 10%  10%  [ 5 ]
Jews are not as upright as others, hence they choose to complain while others choose to hide their pain and move on 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Jews are not as upright as others, hence they choose to complain while others choose to hide their pain and move on 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Other 18%  18%  [ 9 ]
Other 18%  18%  [ 9 ]
Total votes : 50

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09 Sep 2006, 8:50 pm

I have just learned that during World War 2 there was at least one holocaust that didn't involve Jews. Namely, Japaneeze were exterminating Coreans. I also vaguely know that Hitler was exterminating some groups other than Jews, such as Poles. I am not sure about that because if it was true then he would of been killing ppl indistinguishably when he conqured Poland since Jews would be no worse than Poles. So that part I am not sure of. However, one question remains: what about Japaneeze killing off Coreans? Why doesn't THAT count?



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09 Sep 2006, 10:00 pm

Is there a reason you're spelling "Japanese" and "Koreans" wrong?

And I voted other, because Hitler's eugenics program started with Jews before it was expanded to include gypsies, homosexuals and others, and because far more Jews were killed than of any other race/nationality by the Nazis.

As for the Japanese/Korean relationship, I would suggest reading a book called "Year of Impossible Goodbyes".



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09 Sep 2006, 11:49 pm

I wasnt even aware of a holocaust of Koreans - i think awareness of nazi eugenics is far more widespread in europe & america for the obvious reason that its so much closer to home- eg. many Jews who escaped settled in Britain and the US.
Also, Jewish people share more similar cultural values and physical appearance (being white) with most europeans & americans, which makes their persecution seem more immediate and disturbing & thus more likely to resonate strongly within european & american culture.

You need to ask people raised in the far east which holocaust they are more familiar with.



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10 Sep 2006, 12:30 am

I find that for anything there's usually more than just one reason.

Here's another one: Steven Spielberg. Arguably, he is one of the most talented directors of all time. He is Jewish and makes multiple powerful, award-winning films about WW2. "Schindler's List" helped make the Jewish deaths in the Hollocost become common knowledge.

Now, if we had a super talented Armanian filmmaker who made films about the massacre that took out loads of Armanians, then that subject might get more media treatment, but the closest there is to someone like that is...Cher. >.<



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10 Sep 2006, 12:44 am

Oh I know the Japanese murdered millions of Chinese and other asian .

Most people tend to break the war into two part.

The war in the west ,Germany focused on completely getting rid of certain groups of
people. I think the camp data is about 50% Jews and 50% other. The other being
a large group: communist, homosexuals, gypsies, mental disabled, variuos ethic groups.
Its natural when one group is 50% of the targets and the other 50% is a large number
of groups to focus your mind on the biggest target.

The word holocuast is usually refering to people who were killed in the west in systematic fashion (death camps).

The west largely refuse to take Jews from Germany many years before the death camps
which added to the Jewish death toll. If we would have taken those people in the US
we would be a much stronger nation today.



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10 Sep 2006, 1:17 am

Roman....dude. You could learn a thing or two from John Zogby. :roll:


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10 Sep 2006, 4:43 am

This should be a multiple-choice poll. And I'm tired of the word "Holocuast". Tens of millions of native people in both North and South America were killed during the colonization, mostly by the Spaniards and the Brittons. In the Declaration of Independence, the native inhabitants are called "merciless savages". The white Americans continued killing and driving them of their land for over a hundred years after the independence of the United States. Oklahoma (at first called just "Indian Territory") was supposed to be a state for the surviving native Americans, but they were betrayed about that too. At the same time as native Americans were extinguished, raped and betrayed, millions of Africans were dragged over half the Earth to be slaves in the "Land of Liberty".

So I suggest you speak with a bit smaller words about the "Holocaust".


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10 Sep 2006, 7:02 am

I chose other-- Jews were the most literate, wealthy, organized, socially networked group to be persecuted.



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10 Sep 2006, 10:30 am

That's why I would have preferred a multiple choice poll.


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10 Sep 2006, 10:42 am

The only thing about the "Holocaust" that was some kind of record was how fast it went. And the figure that is always mentioned, 6 millions, is probably too high. Maybe 1 or 2 millions, at most 4. Fact is, it's not even proved that most Jews who died were gased, even if they of course were treated extremely badly. Of course there were concentration camps. Of course they starved, froze and suffered from diseases. Of course many actually were gased, on occasions. But they mostly did that with carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide from trucks, not from cyanide. Zyclon B existed, though. It was a chemical, ironically called Prussian acid or blue acid, which was used to exterminate bugs. But 5 millions Poles died. 20(!) millions Russians. And at least 4 millions Germans, many of them civilians who hadn't voted for Hitler or knew what they had voted for.


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10 Sep 2006, 12:47 pm

As far as making it multiple choice poll, I simply don't know how to do it. Actually, a lot of other polls that I made should be multiple choice as well, if only I knew how it is to be done. Can someone please teach me?



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10 Sep 2006, 7:15 pm

Litigious wrote:
The only thing about the "Holocaust" that was some kind of record was how fast it went. And the figure that is always mentioned, 6 millions, is probably too high. Maybe 1 or 2 millions, at most 4. Fact is, it's not even proved that most Jews who died were gased, even if they of course were treated extremely badly. Of course there were concentration camps. Of course they starved, froze and suffered from diseases. Of course many actually were gased, on occasions. But they mostly did that with carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide from trucks, not from cyanide. Zyclon B existed, though. It was a chemical, ironically called Prussian acid or blue acid, which was used to exterminate bugs. But 5 millions Poles died. 20(!) millions Russians. And at least 4 millions Germans, many of them civilians who hadn't voted for Hitler or knew what they had voted for.


Sounds like you've been reading Holocaust denier propoganda!! It's a bunch of bull$hit. Nothing more than second rate Psedo-history. :evil:


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10 Sep 2006, 8:29 pm

There's been lots of attempts at genocide thru history incl Rwanda & the former Yugoslavia "ethnic cleaning" but none of these own Hollywood.

But I think the real difference is that (as a WASP [white anglo saxon protestant]) Germans are PLU (people like us) and the thought of PLU murdering millions is more unpleasant than africans knocking each other off. Somehow WASPs sort of expect bad things in Africa, but not western Europe. :oops:


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12 Sep 2006, 4:30 am

BazzaMcKenzie, you're probably right there.


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12 Sep 2006, 4:33 am

Scrapheap wrote:

Sounds like you've been reading Holocaust denier propoganda!! It's a bunch of bull$hit. Nothing more than second rate Psedo-history. :evil:


Maybe. Or you have watched to many Hollywood sob movies about it. I live in Europe, where it actually happened. Our neighbour countries were occupied by or allied with Germany. Relatives of mine smuggled food over the border to Norway. My grandfather should have been a partisan in case of a German invasion of Sweden.


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12 Sep 2006, 5:26 am

Scrapheap wrote:
Sounds like you've been reading Holocaust denier propoganda!! It's a bunch of bull$hit. Nothing more than second rate Psedo-history. :evil:


How is revising figures denying the holocaust? I study History at university and believe the numbers have been exaggerated. It doesn't mean it was any less of an atrocity.