Board index › Topical Discussion › Politics, Philosophy, and Religion

So whats so great about been micro chipped?

Page 1 of 2 [ 26 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Previous topic | Next topic

Scottinoz
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 25 Jun 2012
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 249
Location: Australia

27 Jun 2012, 10:24 pm

I see they are starting to introduce this idea, Discuss.



thedaywalker
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Nov 2008
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 736

28 Jun 2012, 5:09 am

they can put a chip in my arm if i can put one in theirs.



ialdabaoth
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl

User avatar

Joined: 20 Aug 2011
Age: 51
Gender: Male
Posts: 166

28 Jun 2012, 5:13 am

The best answer is "who asked you? We're gonna do it anyways."



Sweetleaf
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Jan 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 35,278
Location: Somewhere in Colorado

28 Jun 2012, 9:59 am

I see no reason I would want anything like that.


_________________
Tis the time to melt the Ice.


YippySkippy
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Feb 2011
Age: 45
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,986

28 Jun 2012, 10:05 am

My mom has dementia. She could use a nice chip that lets resucers find her in case she wanders off. Would be good if it contained her identity and medical information, too, since she's not able to remember things like that.



Jacoby
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 10 Dec 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 14,284
Location: Arizona

28 Jun 2012, 10:18 am

God help us that this is even being entertained.



Sweetleaf
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Jan 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 35,278
Location: Somewhere in Colorado

28 Jun 2012, 10:38 am

YippySkippy wrote:
My mom has dementia. She could use a nice chip that lets resucers find her in case she wanders off. Would be good if it contained her identity and medical information, too, since she's not able to remember things like that.


That's one thing, but what if they started putting such chips in people against their will who don't want to be tracked by the system.


_________________
Tis the time to melt the Ice.


YippySkippy
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Feb 2011
Age: 45
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,986

28 Jun 2012, 10:42 am

I'm fine with parents (and only parents) being allowed to chip their kids. However, they must sign a legal agreement that they will pay for the chip to be removed if the child requests it upon reaching maturity.



Sweetleaf
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Jan 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 35,278
Location: Somewhere in Colorado

28 Jun 2012, 10:44 am

YippySkippy wrote:
I'm fine with parents (and only parents) being allowed to chip their kids. However, they must sign a legal agreement that they will pay for the chip to be removed if the child requests it upon reaching maturity.


Because I am sure the system really wants to make sure the chips are removed when the kids grow up and realize maybe they don't want people they don't trust to know where they are 24/7. Of course arguments like that will be used....'do it for the safety.' but do you want safety at the cost of your rights?


_________________
Tis the time to melt the Ice.


YippySkippy
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Feb 2011
Age: 45
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,986

28 Jun 2012, 10:50 am

Quote:
Because I am sure the system really wants to make sure the chips are removed when the kids grow up and realize maybe they don't want people they don't trust to know where they are 24/7. Of course arguments like that will be used....'do it for the safety.' but do you want safety at the cost of your rights?


Children don't have the same rights as adults. Once they become adults, whoever had the chip installed should be financially responsible for its removal.



Jacoby
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 10 Dec 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 14,284
Location: Arizona

28 Jun 2012, 10:54 am

YippySkippy wrote:
I'm fine with parents (and only parents) being allowed to chip their kids. However, they must sign a legal agreement that they will pay for the chip to be removed if the child requests it upon reaching maturity.


That is ridiculous. How about people do their jobs as professionals and parents instead of resorting to the tactics of a dystopian police state.



YippySkippy
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Feb 2011
Age: 45
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,986

28 Jun 2012, 11:00 am

Quote:
That is ridiculous. How about people do their jobs as professionals and parents instead of resorting to the tactics of a dystopian police state


I wasn't thinking about tracking disobedient teenagers. I was thinking about rescuing small children from pedophiles. Saving, not stalking.



Jacoby
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 10 Dec 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 14,284
Location: Arizona

28 Jun 2012, 11:03 am

YippySkippy wrote:
Quote:
That is ridiculous. How about people do their jobs as professionals and parents instead of resorting to the tactics of a dystopian police state


I wasn't thinking about tracking disobedient teenagers. I was thinking about rescuing small children from pedophiles. Saving, not stalking.


The threat of pedophiles is so overstated. This paranoia that everybody is out to get there kids is just an excuse for government to creep even closer to a police state. The idea that there are people out there cruising around looking for your kids is by and large a myth. The vast majority of sexual abuse in this country is done by someone the child knows usually their parents.

The threat of an all powerful government is very real however. As always, people believe what they wish is true and that 'it can't happen here'.



Sweetleaf
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Jan 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 35,278
Location: Somewhere in Colorado

28 Jun 2012, 11:07 am

YippySkippy wrote:
Quote:
Because I am sure the system really wants to make sure the chips are removed when the kids grow up and realize maybe they don't want people they don't trust to know where they are 24/7. Of course arguments like that will be used....'do it for the safety.' but do you want safety at the cost of your rights?


Children don't have the same rights as adults. Once they become adults, whoever had the chip installed should be financially responsible for its removal.


I don't care, I still think its a terrible idea and I certainly would not have it done to my child if I had a child.


_________________
Tis the time to melt the Ice.


mentallyskilled
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 25 Apr 2012
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 62

28 Jun 2012, 11:10 am

this would be good for criminals. just to keep them from running away before their court date and only if they committed a major crime. it would also be good for some elderly as people have said. thats all i would want to see it used for i hate the idea.



Sweetleaf
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Jan 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 35,278
Location: Somewhere in Colorado

28 Jun 2012, 11:11 am

Jacoby wrote:
YippySkippy wrote:
Quote:
That is ridiculous. How about people do their jobs as professionals and parents instead of resorting to the tactics of a dystopian police state


I wasn't thinking about tracking disobedient teenagers. I was thinking about rescuing small children from pedophiles. Saving, not stalking.


The threat of pedophiles is so overstated. This paranoia that everybody is out to get there kids is just an excuse for government to creep even closer to a police state. The idea that there are people out there cruising around looking for your kids is by and large a myth. The vast majority of sexual abuse in this country is done by someone the child knows usually their parents.

The threat of an all powerful government is very real however. As always, people believe what they wish is true and that 'it can't happen here'.


I agree with you here.


_________________
Tis the time to melt the Ice.


Last edited by Sweetleaf on 28 Jun 2012, 11:13 am, edited 1 time in total.