Redrawing US Borders

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This thread is for discussing the various ways in which people have attempted to add new counties, states and territories to the United States, as well as attempts to create new nations out of the US and its territories. Please only mention non-fictional examples.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Separatism_in_the_United_States
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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DividedStatesOfAmerica ("Real Life" folder)
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There was almost a referundum which, if passed, would have caused Staten Island (Richmond County) to secede from the City of New York. Some people still advocate this.

I guess there are still people here in the Pacific Northwest who would like to see the region secede in order to form the independent nation of Cascadia.

Ben and Jerry would be secretaries of State, and of Defense.

Our missle defenses are along the northern tier of states. If North Dakota were to secede from the union it would be the World's fourth largest nuclear power.

The Sioux Reservations are in neighboring South Dakota. If the Sioux (aka "the Dakota tribes") were to rise up to reclaim the two states named after them as an independent station then the Sioux would be the world's fourth largest nuclear power.

Sitting Bull would be proud!

There has been a long standing movement in northern California to secede from the state and create a state they want to call Jefferson. These people do not feel properly represented by the state of California, as they tend to be more conservative or libertarian when California tends to vote liberal (though the state is just barely "blue"). Aside from the fact that it's nearly impossible for them to actually legally secede, "Jefferson" does not have a sustainable way to generate revenue. The region was previously supported by the lumber industry, but they've cut down much of their trees, and even they know this is a finite resource. The current plan to generate revenue if they secede, is to run prisons, and take control of the water which is directed from their region, down south.

The powers that be will never allow that to happen.

In California, water is the actual gold, and the majority of the water shunted from the north, southward, actually goes to water crops in the central valley, thus supporting what is not only California's biggest economy (agriculture), but providing a very large percentage of the fruits and vegetables for the entire nation.

Those farmers are very rich, very educated, and very well connected.

There was actually a similar proposal for Upper Michigan to become its own state called Superior. Basically the Democrat aligned UP doesn't like that the Republican aligned Lower Michigan effectively makes all the decisions, does everything to feed the monster that is the automotive industry, and refuses to build up infrastructure in the UP so as to keep them a non-voice in Michigan politics. It last had its great push in the 70s but given the stupidity in Michigan right now I wouldn't be surprised if some over there are whispering about it again.

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Interesting.

If the upper peninsula were granted statehood it would wreak havoc on local politics here in the Potomac area.

Though the Peninsula is physically bigger than Maryland, it has a population size less than half of that of the District of Columbia. So if Superior got statehood that would reignite the drive for statehood for D.C..

Yeah northern Wisconsinites and southern Wisconsinites often have startling differences in beliefs and behaviors. The UP and Upper Wisconsin are very similar though so some of the Superior ideas had the UP either joining Wisconsin or having the two become their own state and giving the finger to the southerners.

As far as the DC statehood ideas they've continued to fly every few years. There's one debate about it going on right now in fact.

Forming the State of Jefferson is Constitutionally legal .
all that is needed is a simply majority in sac to vote yes and on the federal level as well
and it is without a double financially viable , there are several financial models that state that,
1 being during the push 2 yrs ago to split Kalifornia into 6 , a study was done by
the state accounting agencies and it says there is plenty of money to provide the same
level of services,
do a little research .SOJ51.net is a good place to start
.soj51.net
as for the water, most of the water infrastructure is controlled by the feds so splitting the
state won't actually change any of that ,

as for the powers that be we are not asking their permission and given how completely provably
corrupt and lawless so much of the government of California they no longer have the consent of the people
youtu.be/MMnRZXz51WE