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Celifrog
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18 Jan 2019, 11:20 pm

To survive and reproduce?

To make the world a slightly better place?

To enjoy it?

Could there be no reason at all?

Why do we exist?

:?
Why has no one ever truly come back from the dead to say that everything is okay on the otherside of life and death? :skull:

So many unanswerable and, debatable questions, so many religions. Ugh



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19 Jan 2019, 12:00 am

Be, Believe, Belong!



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19 Jan 2019, 12:07 am

There is no meaning to life.


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19 Jan 2019, 5:11 am

Raleigh wrote:
There is no meaning to life.


Anything you value in your life?



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19 Jan 2019, 5:41 am

Since I won't ever get to have a family or dream career like everybody else the only things I truly value in my life are the simple pleasures like getting to watch The Golden Girls and other movies/shows, going out to eat Chinese food once in awhile, making something creative and beautiful now and then, enjoying the beauty of nature, and visiting cool places like Atlanta and New Orleans.

That's the meaning of my life, to at least enjoy what I can about it before I die.



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19 Jan 2019, 8:41 am

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19 Jan 2019, 10:52 am

The meaning of life is to contribute our unique perspective, to affect the future development of the universe.

Humans and other life forms each have a unique way of understanding the world, because we each have a unique set of life experiences. We develop our unique perspective by remembering past experiences, and accessing our memories in order to determine how we will act in the future. So our past experience predestines us act the way we do.

Our actions affect other people and the world at large. Even after our physical death, the knock-on effects of our life actions continue to affect and shape the souls of other people (who our actions have influenced), and the development universe as a whole. This is what 'eternal life' means to me. Not a living eternity of becoming different people by piling on new experience, but an eternity of being merged with the development of humanity, through the knock-on effects of our mortal actions.

The dignity of being human is that each of us affect the future development of the universe. Each of us makes his own unique contribution by amassing memories and determining how we will act, based on our memory set.



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19 Jan 2019, 11:51 am

A pile of apes corn-holing.


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19 Jan 2019, 1:34 pm

Actually I now think the meaning of life is to simply die. :skull:



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19 Jan 2019, 5:38 pm

Celifrog wrote:
To survive and reproduce?


Biologically, the purpose of life is to reproduce. But there is an overpopulation problem. And many unwanted children

To make the world a slightly better place?

"Better" is subjective. Three Holocaust was "ethnic cleansing"

To enjoy it?

That could be a purpose, but sounds too superficial and not enough meaning


Could there be no reason at all?

Yes


Why do we exist?


There is no way to know the answer

There might not be an answer

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Why has no one ever truly come back from the dead to say that everything is okay on the otherside of life and death? :skull:




So many unanswerable and, debatable questions, so many religions. Ugh



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25 Jan 2019, 6:40 am

I think the only thing in your OP that I might nuance a bit:

Celifrog wrote:
Why has no one ever truly come back from the dead to say that everything is okay on the otherside of life and death? :skull:


The idea seems to be that if someone claims to have had an NDE then by definition they weren't truly/deeply dead because they were revived, and also because these aren't true/deep death NDE's are written off by most that like to consider themselves science-minded. It's a more complex situation and one where it's best to read the literature to flesh out for oneself what the circumstances that surround these events would suggest.

A couple of the key problems for people trying to discuss these calmly - the claims made by both experiencers and doctors generally don't conform to reductive materialist expectations. To make the results more annoying no one exactly sees the same things. As you can imagine due to that blend there's quite a heated debate between people who on one hand would suggest that these are just bits of neurological activity either toward death or recovering from a near brush and the mystical/'supernatural' circumstances around revenants and their experiences are just wishful thinking or minds jumping to emotional/needful conclusions on one hand and others who'd suggest that such dismissal doesn't follow considering the number, quantity, and quality in some cases, of these experiences (including situations where it's claimed that a patient who was clinically 'dead' for a few minutes knew things they couldn't have possibly known not just about the room at the time of their death of things happening in other locations) and that we may be clutching reductive-materialism a bit harder than is warranted.

Even going on the brighter side of that literature though - not much meaning is added. I think most of our pain here is attempting to deal with copious amount of suffering, mounted on top of us and rather than strengthening us guaranteeing to eviscerate our health, and no sign that it has any meaning. NDE's seem to suggest - again if taken at face value - that there's a sort of Bardo as the Buddhists would put it, but that's nothing like a Christian or Muslim heaven in that it's neither permanent nor a place of completion.


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25 Jan 2019, 7:26 am

I think we are here to realize ourselves , find the part of God in us , then act accordingly .



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25 Jan 2019, 9:38 am

Celifrog wrote:
What's the meaning of life?
Intrinsically, life has no meaning.

However, you can decide for yourself what your life means to you.



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26 Jan 2019, 10:40 am

The meaning of life? Oh, that’s easy...

To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!



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26 Jan 2019, 12:40 pm

Hai yah! That is good!



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26 Jan 2019, 6:19 pm

Intrinsically, the Meaning of Life is to Feel/Sense 'Good' Now Just Now;
Most Every Animal Feels And Senses This With No Symbols At All.

As far as Humans Go it shouldn't take a Rocket Scientist
to Figure this out but by the Very Activity of always Figuring
things out in Symbol Speak 'they' often get more limited to the Neo-Cortex
in an Illusion of Time, Distance, and Space that includes Past And Future
Often failing to have A Relatively Speaking 'Good' 'Time Now'.

This Will Be Rather
Sad but Common Sense.

Life is Good
When Life is Good
It's as simple as that and as far as complex.

The Standard for Most Animals is a Spiraling Flow Like a River.

(In other Words, Be the Water; Bruce Lee even got 'this' through Martial Arts)

Many Humans On 'Another Hand' Defeat Essence 'in Arms' Of 'A Milky Way'.

In other Words; Written Words are not the Meaning of Life; intrinsically at Least, as they are Culturally Derived.


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