can you people tell me something (and don't lie)?

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Look, why does this society seem to VALUE negative characteristics in people, such as dishonesty, selfishness, egoism, apathy, stupidity, group think, while SCORNING people who speak of positive values such as honesty, loyalty, selflessness, integrity, respect, determination, drive, intelligence, and individuality? Don't make it an AS/NT thing because it ISN'T. Why do so many people, including many but not all of the people here, so strongly believe that a cohesive and tolerant, functioning society is evil, or that dysfunction is "normal" and should be valued? I want an honest answer. Don't say "because ignorance feels good", a crack head is still a crack head no matter how the crack makes him feel.

That's one of the many mysteries of life, but my guess is rebellion from the old ways.

That's funny because my only clear thought about the qu was that it's always been like this, since the Neolithic anyway!



And that people have always been talking about the old days as if they were better.

I think that it's posssible that society values those things because a significant proportion of its most sensitive and gifted members have been half out of it on food opiates ( in wheat and dairy) since the stone age, and a much greater part of population on a powerful painkiller since the 1600s when use of sugar became widespread.
It's well known that pain is useful; it tells you what is a bad idea. The trouble with painkillers is that you don't notice when you do yourself harm, ( of any kind) and that on top of "opiate-similar" effects for many is a recipe for disaster.

Negative characteristics may be interesting to people.
Positive characteristics? Possibly a mix of jealousy and disbelief.

Because it's carryover from cavemen days, when everyone needed to kill the other person in order to survive, the hind reptilian brain took forefront and the ego became an out of control beast ruled by greed, lust and power with a vivid taste for blood. It's the time before spirit entered the equation, before the soul entered consciousness. The same ones who still possess this archaic and destructive mode of being now sit in places of power through their soul-less actions but the winds are constantly in motion, many are evolving beyond and there will soon be a new era where spirit overtakes ego and all will be well, peace within and on earth. For real.

But in the long run, the crack head is miserable because of his addiction.

Perhaps this says something? Short term comfort is often long term self destruction. ignorance is like crack, people like it because it feels good at first, but in the end they always pay for their addiction.

Well that and as someone else pointed out, laziness/selfishness. People always wanna take the easy road...... A famous Irish song went "you take the high road, and I'll take the low road, and I'll get there beforrrrre ya". That's about where I'm standing, if it's too easy it's probably not very good.

NT collective of religion( such as Christianity) might give you incite on NTs ideals. It is strange though Christians don't really see Jesus as a role modal. They do and say thing knowing that Jesus would not give his blessing.