When does life commence?

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31 Mar 2008, 5:20 pm

If you plant a sunflower seed, do you expect to grow an almond tree?

Rather then argue points of when organs and whatnot are developed during stages of pregnancy, I'd like you to think about this: Regardless of stage, is the life human?

Do you expect that when a human male and human female conceive that the offspring will be a chimpanzee, squirrel, etc. Or shall it be human?

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31 Mar 2008, 5:22 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Do you expect that when a human male and human female conceive that the offspring will be a chimpanzee, squirrel, etc. Or shall it be human?

Well, I think you are making some assumptions here. Sometimes when a mother doesn't know the father, she *REALLY* doesn't know the father! :wink:

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31 Mar 2008, 5:24 pm

A fetus is undeniably human tissue, but not human tissue I would assign rights to.

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31 Mar 2008, 5:25 pm

Is all human life equal? Should the cancer that the doctor cuts out and kills not have equal rights to all persons??

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31 Mar 2008, 5:26 pm

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Is all human life equal? Should the cancer that the doctor cuts out and kills not have equal rights to all persons??

Every day at the barber shop is a holocaust.

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31 Mar 2008, 5:27 pm

Is hair and cancer on it's way to walking and talking?

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31 Mar 2008, 5:27 pm

BesideYouInTime wrote:

monty wrote:

Is all human life equal? Should the cancer that the doctor cuts out and kills not have equal rights to all persons??

Every day at the barber shop is a holocaust.

?? Hair is not alive. It is a secretion.

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31 Mar 2008, 5:28 pm

monty wrote:

?? Hair is not alive. It is a secretion.

It contains human DNA.

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31 Mar 2008, 5:28 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Is hair and cancer on it's way to walking and talking?

Cancer in humans is generally part of the walking, talking individual.

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31 Mar 2008, 5:30 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Is hair and cancer on it's way to walking and talking?

There are an extremely large number of steps between a fertilized egg and a newborn.

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31 Mar 2008, 5:30 pm

BesideYouInTime wrote:

monty wrote:

?? Hair is not alive. It is a secretion.

It contains human DNA.

Ok, then as soon as we develop methods that allow cloning a person from hair we will need to talk about preserving the clippings from the barbershop.

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31 Mar 2008, 5:33 pm

nevermind.

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31 Mar 2008, 5:33 pm

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Ok, then as soon as we develop methods that allow cloning a person from hair we will need to talk about preserving the clippings from the barbershop.

As soon as we develop technology that allows a fetus to develop outside of its host body I'll start caring about fetuses.

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31 Mar 2008, 5:39 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Is hair and cancer on it's way to walking and talking?

With the right technology, why not?

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31 Mar 2008, 5:48 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Is hair and cancer on it's way to walking and talking?

With the right technology, why not?

Occurring in Nature and not by human design.

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31 Mar 2008, 6:22 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

If you plant a sunflower seed, do you expect to grow an almond tree?

If you want 10 sunflower plants, do you plant only 10 seeds? Or do you realize that it is normal for some seeds not to make it?

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