Just like beating a dead horse

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How safe, how boring, how absolutely redundant would it be, ti have an aspie forum in the UK that has anti american views. To top it off they also don't let americans join.

Just like beating a dead horse if you ask me.

I can see the typical thread:

I hate americans they are bad. they do not deserve to think themselves better than i. We like irish people more.
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response: i thought this was the anti-amnesty forum, my bad.

Its not like that at all. There is nothing in the forum constitution that is anti-American, its just that the average decent British guy just doesn't like America. We are fed up of your a***hole of a President telling the world what to do.

And so, sir, are a vast majority of us.

If you were to follow the polls

Too true, Enders. I am a Brit but I am not necessarily anti-American. I was quite fond of Clinton, and going back a bit, there have been some good presidents - Kennedy and Nixon spring to mind - Nixon made a good stab at rapprochement with the Soviet Union whereas Kennedy brought the world to the brink of nuclear war. That's not the politically correct way of looking at it, but the Kremlin was convinced that Watergate was an anti-Soviet plot aimed at getting Nixon out of the White House and replacing him with a hardliner. I'm not interested in internal US politics - that's not my speciality and I have no opinions on who should replace Bush (an American politcal/liberal colleague I worked with over the summer told me that Hilary Clinton might be the obvious answer to overseas people, but she would not impress many Americans outside the north-east).

I actually admire Bush rather than Blair. Bush has got some pretty good people around him and has promoted people who - objectively speaking - are competent and (wow!) are black women. Although he talks tough, he has some good diplomats in the background. And there wasn't an alternative - if the Americans had had Howard Dean, there would have been a real fight, though that said, Kerry did put up a serious challenge and got the second highest vote in US history. If there'd been a really charismatic candidate it might have been slightly different, though Bush I think did at least appear tougher than Kerry managed to and had a definite position, which might have helped him.

And Blair and his cronies are part of the way to losing - Blair lost about two-thirds of his parliamentary majority, and Labour MPs being as bolshy as they are, is well on his way to losing the other third. It's just that in this country elections are about the whole parliament rather than just the leader. And we have the third party to worry about, who essentially propped Blair up, although last I heard of them they too were in a mess. IMHO no-one really lost the last election, and had the two others faced up to their own parties and kicked them into touch rather than falling on their swords, we might actually have seen the back of Blair. It's not going to be Cameron who gets him out either, as he has all the hallmarks of "here today, gone tomorrow" without the substance or the energy or the real fire inside him to back him up once times get tough.

In fact the answer I to the question I posed myself when IDS was on the rocks - "Who do the Tories have?" is still "Michael Howard". Unfortunately (although he certainly didn't go out with a whimper, leading me to suggest the old goat is merely having a sabbatical rather than taking up his pipe and slippers). And the Liberal Democrats - sorry Robert - aren't going to get the breakthrough this millennium either - they are too close politically to Labour to be any sort of real opposition except for a receptacle for protest votes. The only policy they differed radically on, in fact, was the war, and since that is effectively a dead duck, there is no solid ground for them to fight on.

It sounds like you have a good mental hold on the political 'spectrum' and a good mind to back it up.

And after reading your post one thing became clear to me;
I am an ethnocenticaholic. i do not know any of the people you were talking about, outside of Blair. i would not have even known him if it wasn't for the war for oil.
Leads me to make a note to myself, not to bash your political system in the UK, until i have a better understanding of its inner-worrkings.
And take note RobiN, i haven't done that.

Yes, my name is Robert, also. And i am an ethnocentricaholic. I am taking it one day at a time.

We don't all hate Americans here.
Intelligent people everywhere appreciate we are in different carriages
of the same runaway train.

RobertN, please don't think I'm knocking you
but we British have a lot to answer for
we screwed over half the world in our heyday
how can we be so hypocritical as to knock the U.S?

We started the industrial revolution
colonized much of North America
Helped create the state of Israel (1946 version)
etc etc
If any country is to blame for the oil/middle east problem
It's British greed and imperialism

And yes I love my country
and the people in it
But I hate my Government
and it's policies.

I really think we should be uniting as intelligent people
not letting thier planets toxic hatred polute ours.

I think we should vote to have a separation of politics and humans. It's safer that way.

I think our domesticated animals should run politics instead. It makes more sense. And they'd likely do a much better job.

Buh? Did I miss something here? Why do people tune others out because of their nationality? And what is this forum that you speak of?

Comkeen,