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07 Feb 2009, 2:13 pm

I am an Anti Zionist Jew Myself, there are not many of us, so it would be nice to bring Autistic Anti Zionist Jews together.



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07 Feb 2009, 4:26 pm

I was raised in a Jewish family and I don't support zionism one bit even though I don't support Hamas. 6 million of my ancestors were killed and I hate seeing them do the same thing done to them.


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07 Feb 2009, 6:23 pm

I'm in favor of people not killing each other. Which side do I support with those views?

(Disclaimer: I'm a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, not a Jew)


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07 Feb 2009, 6:53 pm

Orwell wrote:
I'm in favor of people not killing each other. Which side do I support with those views?

(Disclaimer: I'm a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, not a Jew)


I'm with you. However, all people do indeed suck and I guess we do all deserve to be killed!


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08 Feb 2009, 5:12 pm

I think you need to define 'Zionist' before you can ask someone if they are anti-zionist. It strikes me that the term has a variety of meanings for different people, which can create profoundly different implications if you self-identify as pro- or anti-zionist.


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08 Feb 2009, 5:58 pm

klick wrote:
I think you need to define 'Zionist' before you can ask someone if they are anti-zionist. It strikes me that the term has a variety of meanings for different people, which can create profoundly different implications if you self-identify as pro- or anti-zionist.


This might clarify matters. http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Israe ... onism.html



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08 Feb 2009, 6:15 pm

That's an interesting link, Sand. I take it that by posting it, you're defining Zionism as part of a global capitalist-imperialist movement? Laconvivencia, history_of_psychiatry, would you like to give your definitions?


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08 Feb 2009, 6:19 pm

From what I understand, Zionism is the belief that Jews should establish a homeland in Israel.


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09 Feb 2009, 2:23 am

klick wrote:
That's an interesting link, Sand. I take it that by posting it, you're defining Zionism as part of a global capitalist-imperialist movement? Laconvivencia, history_of_psychiatry, would you like to give your definitions?


I'm merely providing a link with historical information. I did not make any comment.



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09 Feb 2009, 2:33 am

Sand wrote:
klick wrote:
That's an interesting link, Sand. I take it that by posting it, you're defining Zionism as part of a global capitalist-imperialist movement? Laconvivencia, history_of_psychiatry, would you like to give your definitions?


I'm merely providing a link with historical information. I did not make any comment.

The posting of a link in response to a question implies at least a tacit endorsement of the views expressed at that link.


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09 Feb 2009, 2:59 am

Orwell wrote:
Sand wrote:
klick wrote:
That's an interesting link, Sand. I take it that by posting it, you're defining Zionism as part of a global capitalist-imperialist movement? Laconvivencia, history_of_psychiatry, would you like to give your definitions?


I'm merely providing a link with historical information. I did not make any comment.

The posting of a link in response to a question implies at least a tacit endorsement of the views expressed at that link.



Stop jumping to conclusions. I don't endorse anything. If you want to present other links with other perspectives, feel free.



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09 Feb 2009, 9:38 am

Laconvivencia wrote:
I am an Anti Zionist Jew Myself, there are not many of us, so it would be nice to bring Autistic Anti Zionist Jews together.


What exactly does it mean to be an Anti Zionist Jew?



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09 Feb 2009, 9:46 am

slowmutant wrote:
Laconvivencia wrote:
I am an Anti Zionist Jew Myself, there are not many of us, so it would be nice to bring Autistic Anti Zionist Jews together.


What exactly does it mean to be an Anti Zionist Jew?


Basically it means someone who doesn't approve of Israeli policy towards Palestinians or the whole concept of a theologically based Jewish state.



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09 Feb 2009, 9:48 am

Sand wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
Laconvivencia wrote:
I am an Anti Zionist Jew Myself, there are not many of us, so it would be nice to bring Autistic Anti Zionist Jews together.


What exactly does it mean to be an Anti Zionist Jew?


Basically it means someone who doesn't approve of Israeli policy towards Palestinians or the whole concept of a theologically based Jewish state.
So Zionism and Judaism are not actually synonymous?



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09 Feb 2009, 9:52 am

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So Zionism and Judaism are not actually synonymous?


No, from what I understand, All Zionists are Jews but not all Jews are Zionists.


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09 Feb 2009, 3:44 pm

The_Cucumber wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
So Zionism and Judaism are not actually synonymous?


No, from what I understand, All Zionists are Jews but not all Jews are Zionists.


Not true. Even though most Jews are Zionists, most Zionists are actually Christians.


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