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10 Jun 2009, 12:11 pm

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Three things certain in the world: Hate, Death and War. Even if the Muslims do not bomb Israel, there are always the North Koreans. 8O


Why would they bother to bomb Israel? There's no conflict between N Korea and Israel, and anyway they don't have missiles with that range.



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10 Jun 2009, 12:46 pm

I have to say, the question at the start of this post is downright offensive to me, and shows a complete misunderstanding of how someone like me thinks. I am glad that others have found some relatively intelligent replies, because my mouth is too far wide open is complete disbelief to do so.


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10 Jun 2009, 1:37 pm

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I have to say, the question at the start of this post is downright offensive to me, and shows a complete misunderstanding of how someone like me thinks. I am glad that others have found some relatively intelligent replies, because my mouth is too far wide open is complete disbelief to do so.


well said :salut:



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10 Jun 2009, 2:23 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
I have to say, the question at the start of this post is downright offensive to me, and shows a complete misunderstanding of how someone like me thinks. I am glad that others have found some relatively intelligent replies, because my mouth is too far wide open is complete disbelief to do so.


You must be new here. How long you been on the internets?



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10 Jun 2009, 2:52 pm

monty wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
I have to say, the question at the start of this post is downright offensive to me, and shows a complete misunderstanding of how someone like me thinks. I am glad that others have found some relatively intelligent replies, because my mouth is too far wide open is complete disbelief to do so.


You must be new here. How long you been on the internets?


The question makes the assumption that Liberals are evil people. It's like asking "Liberals: have you stopped beating your wife yet?", and is not permitted on WP. I would have locked the thread ages ago, but like DW_a_mom said, the posters didn't go the way of the flame war Ragtime was trying for, so I let it stay.



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10 Jun 2009, 4:29 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
I have to say, the question at the start of this post is downright offensive to me, and shows a complete misunderstanding of how someone like me thinks. I am glad that others have found some relatively intelligent replies, because my mouth is too far wide open is complete disbelief to do so.

Well I see as complete desperation. So really there no gain for him, he continues to be dissatisfied. Don't waste energy being offended You are liberal. 'Liberals' is a derogatory term for this sort of ad homonym rhetoric. He isn't actually referring you in reality. In any debate never argue on someone else’s terms. By replying like you did you are inadvertedly identifying with a rhetorical group that you are not even apart of, if they exist at all.

Like i said there is a trend her with these strawman rhetorical question in titles. He is not a happy camper.



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10 Jun 2009, 4:30 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
I have to say, the question at the start of this post is downright offensive to me, and shows a complete misunderstanding of how someone like me thinks. I am glad that others have found some relatively intelligent replies, because my mouth is too far wide open is complete disbelief to do so.

Well I see as complete desperation. So really there no gain for him, he continues to be dissatisfied. Don't waste energy being offended You are liberal. 'Liberals' is a derogatory term for this sort of ad homonym rhetoric. He isn't actually referring you in reality. In any debate never argue on someone else’s terms. By replying like you did you are inadvertedly identifying with a rhetorical group that you are not even apart of, if they exist at all.

Like i said there is a trend her with these strawman rhetorical question in titles. He is not a happy camper.



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11 Jun 2009, 1:55 am

0_equals_true wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
I have to say, the question at the start of this post is downright offensive to me, and shows a complete misunderstanding of how someone like me thinks. I am glad that others have found some relatively intelligent replies, because my mouth is too far wide open is complete disbelief to do so.

Well I see as complete desperation. So really there no gain for him, he continues to be dissatisfied. Don't waste energy being offended You are liberal. 'Liberals' is a derogatory term for this sort of ad homonym rhetoric. He isn't actually referring you in reality. In any debate never argue on someone else’s terms. By replying like you did you are inadvertedly identifying with a rhetorical group that you are not even apart of, if they exist at all.

Like i said there is a trend her with these strawman rhetorical question in titles. He is not a happy camper.

OP is a bigot who likes to sound rightous when all he is is a small minded bigot who likes to hear himself speak. He has no evidence, no indpenent facts and ambigous arguments. My view of OP hasn't changed because my view of him hasn't changed, one of mockery and amusement.
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11 Jun 2009, 10:38 am

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This is a question to all those who claim to despise war and violence in all its forms, and who also believe Israel has no right to exist in the Middle East -- those who believe the land rightfully belongs to the Palestinians:

If the Jews do not evacuate Israel, do the Palestinians have the right to bomb them, to use violent terrorism against peaceful Israeli Jewish citizens (men, women, children)?

If so, then please type out how you reconcile that belief with your belief that war and violence are wrong in all its forms.
There seems to be a double standard among liberals which goes: the Palestinians can violently attack Israeli men, women, children, but Israel shouldn't fight back to stop these attacks. Please attempt to explain that position, those of you who hold it. Maybe your belief should be modified to: "Violence is never the answer except when the Palestinians bomb Israeli civilians."


Do you have any shred of class whatsoever? Just where do you get your information from, Sociopathic Weekly?


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11 Jun 2009, 6:41 pm

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What do you do with murderers? Both sides have been guilty.


One side started it look back at history and see how evil they went about it.


Of course. The Christians did it first. And here is a lovely example of what they did.

Actually, the Muslims did it first. The Crusades were a response to centuries of Muslim conquest, as the Muslims were getting closer and closer to the Byzantine Empire and this scared the Byzantines.


The Byzantines and the Muslims were capable of negotiating. Of course, Alexius wanted help to kick them out of his lands, but Pope Gregory IX (from memory) exaggerated what the Muslims did to native and Byzantine Christians (who were actually well treated, relatively speaking, by the Muslim Turks), and stirred up war fever.


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11 Jun 2009, 7:03 pm

I'd also like to remind people that although the situation is like this, there are quite a few organisations which count Israelians and Palestinians within their midst and that are pushing for peaceful cohabitation between the two. =/



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11 Jun 2009, 7:05 pm

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I'd also like to remind people that although the situation is like this, there are quite a few organisations which count Israelians and Palestinians within their midst and that are pushing for peaceful cohabitation between the two. =/

I know that, OP is just either being a total troll OR a complete bigot


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11 Jun 2009, 7:21 pm

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phil777 wrote:
I'd also like to remind people that although the situation is like this, there are quite a few organisations which count Israelians and Palestinians within their midst and that are pushing for peaceful cohabitation between the two. =/

I know that, OP is just either being a total troll OR a complete bigot


Both, I think.


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11 Jun 2009, 7:24 pm

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I'd also like to remind people that although the situation is like this, there are quite a few organisations which count Israelians and Palestinians within their midst and that are pushing for peaceful cohabitation between the two. =/

I know that, OP is just either being a total troll OR a complete bigot


Both, I think.

why do people (OP) act like they are right despite having no clue as to what is really going on?


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11 Jun 2009, 7:28 pm

cognito wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
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phil777 wrote:
I'd also like to remind people that although the situation is like this, there are quite a few organisations which count Israelians and Palestinians within their midst and that are pushing for peaceful cohabitation between the two. =/

I know that, OP is just either being a total troll OR a complete bigot


Both, I think.

why do people (OP) act like they are right despite having no clue as to what is really going on?


Why do the Israelis and Palestinians bomb each other? Because they have an unshakeable 'knowledge' that they are in the right, no matter what. Ditto with Ragtime.


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11 Jun 2009, 7:31 pm

Oy, to the above, maybe we can (safely) assume by what you've said that he's supporting Israel then? <.<