6/6/06 celebrations

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I wouldn’t believe any attempt by some of you to back off your statements with excuses.


You take the easiest prey, bully them and some here are narcissistic social abusers whom socially bully (abuse) groups of people for your entertainment. Likely the result of being bullied yourselves and it's a cycle.

Pardon me I've got a date...

Moving starts in a *few* hours. I feel terrified.

Every day is the devil's day, though some days are more so than others. Is that character real?

Absolutely. I've seen enoug, and endured enough, to become convinced of it.

However, if one is convinced of the existance of *Brimstone*, then the evidence for *other* parites is quite strong, one of them being God. I needed substantial convincing, and even evidence of such reality. It was supplied, has been supplied, and is being supplied.

I wondered for many years as to much of what is written in the bible - yes, including the idea of <gulp> killing people who were 'different'. I still wonder more than a little, even if I have a somewhat better idea as to why that was done.

example: 'homosexuality' was connected with something called 'sex-magick' back then. (Some practiced it more recently, including A. Crowley). The goal of sex-magick is domination (spiritual, mental, and physical) and *robotic* control. To call such doings coercive is calling them wonderful.

Is coercion - no, scratch that. Is turning other people into tormented puppets 'good', especially if you are the puppet? I personally would not wish to have that done to me, and would not wish to do it to another (and more than once, someone tried doing so to me, though not by that particular means) It is altogether unfair, especially to the puppet. (And while life is <unfair>, that does not make it right.)

The true meaning of 'do what thou wilt' is doing whatever you wish to whomever you wish, while answering to no one whomsoever, as per one's inclination of the moment. Justification? Such rubbish is unneccessary. If you want to do it, do it. To hell (litterally) with everything and everyone else. Murder? If you wish, do so. Torture? Butchery? Sacrifice?

"Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law." Then do so.

Remember, however, as you hone your killing knives and polish the brass of your weapons: there is but room for one at the top. If you strive for that place, you will march there over the bones and blood of your victims, and most importantly, one day, you too will be sacrificed to your assailant as that person kills you to take your place.

I do not want that kind of a world, and I see its crushing fist around me every day. Ugh!

D. Y.

So Captian Ahab, did you get your White Whale??

No it's not. Ask any half-credible pagan author what sex magic is about and what they'll tell you is nothing like what you just described. Christ, where do people come up with this stuff?

Sex magic is the magical application of sex, yes. But it's the magical application of consensual sex. Sex magic is about partnership, not control, and if you automatically see it as this horrible perverse thing then I feel kinda sorry for you.
Basically the principle is that an orgasm entails a brief mental emptiness in which the mind is free from worldly influences and is therefore free to influence reality in a typical magical fashion. I don't see why Christians and Muslims insist on vilifying human sexuality, since Judaism seems alright with it in most respects.

And it's unlikely that Christian/Muslim/whatever persecutors of homosexuality associate it with this dubious sex magic you envision; bigots don't need a reason to be bigots.

Perhaps we are not speaking of the same thing. What I 'received' was an understanding of why this practice was done in the past, and what I've read of it (penetrating a goat and cutting its throat, 'soul-cracking', conjuring 'Babalon') didn't sound at all consensual. It did confirm what I 'received' passably.

More importantly, the fear, terror, and pain caused by 'non-consensual' sex is far more 'powerful' than a simple 'agreement' - and more, it fits the 'true' sociopathic mindset of 'evil' vastly better.

Finally, the deepest things are frequently not written down. Secrecy is what makes the progressive layers of initiation attractive; secret knowledge = power over others.

D. Y.

That doesn't sound like a common practice, and I'm sure it only happens in a few isolated cases, if ever. It sounds more like something a rabid preacher would make up to convince the impressionable masses to hate gay people.

Sacrificing a goat? Let me guess, to Satan? I know Muslims have a special prayer they say while killing an animal (for food, nothing wrong with that), and it can be thought of as a sort of sacrificial rite, but that's them sacrificing it to God, not Satan. The Aztecs are known for their practice of cutting a live person's heart for sacrificial purposes, but once again, this was to appease their gods. Not their demons, their gods. LaVey-ist Satanism actually forbids animal sacrifices.

And as an interesting side note which isn't entirely relevant to this post, I did a quick Google search for the phrase "soul-cracking." It's a term attributed to L. Ron Hubbard in an interview. Real credible source you've got there.

they insist on vilifying human sexuality because, as you so rightly noted, human sexuality is a powerful thing. firstly, organised religions obviously want to disempower the individual, to make him/her believe that god is omnipotent and to submit to the higher power.
secondly, repressed and sublimated human sexual energy is what drives most fanatical movements, from various religions, to WW2 german fascism, to the current fascistic tendencies observable in the american masses, largely those of a right wing christian disposition.

http://www.notbored.org/reich.html

this is why authoritarian religions and governments always try and repress sexual freedom.

You ever read "Nineteen Eighty-Four", peebo? That's a major principle of sex oppression in the totalitarian state in that story....

exactly, the scenario in 1984 perfectly illustrates the point i was making. a great book, and poignant to our current scenario in the west, i think, on various levels.

But, thankfully, not at the complete level seen in that book, or in the very high level seen in V for Vendetta (comic or film). But there are worrying signs...

Okay, I stopped at page 5, but I saw enough. emp, you are an idiot. I hate to clash in a religious battle, but I will, again.
If I were a Satanist, I would be insulted by this. In fact, I feel sorry for satanists for having to put up with all the bush people give them. Not all satanist worship satan. Read the bloody Wikipedia article, you people!
I also would be isulted by you aligning with me for one day, just to piss off some christians.

I will not argue with you about the bible until you actual read/learn about it. Rule #1 in any debate: know the other side. You clearly do not, as shown by your use of the old testament to say that christians are told to kill homosexuals. I would have thought that someone would have made the distincion between the old and new testaments, and what comes from each of them by now, but either they have not, or you have refuse to listen. I vote the second.

I feel bad about missing the last four pages, but I don't have time.

I had meant to celebrate 6/6/06, but then forgot.

I've always had a funny sort of view on Satan and Satanism.

IF God wrote the Bible, AND God is in direct competition with Satan, THEN it fits God's purpose to turn people against Satan, THEREFORE what is said in the Bible cannot be assumed true. It may be the truth, a lie, a half truth or an incomplete truth.

Let us, though, assume that God created Satan.

Either God knew Satan would rebel, or he did not.

If God knew Satan would rebel, then he was able to create "Evil", therfore, he is not "All Good"

If God did not know Satan would rebel, then he is not omniscient.