Why does it matter? It does not, the focus of the discussion has shifted to when does person hood begin. Not about consent anymore.
Besides. Someone needs to pay for the machine. Who is it going to pay for it? An adult that wants the baby, I'd guess.
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A scraped piece of skin is "human life". I don't care about what is or isn't considered "human life", I care about personhood. And fetuses are not people.
well that is your opinion, most people feel differently
Where are your statistics backing your claim that most people feel differently? Why does it matter? Popularity of argument does not make it righter.
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you don't feel differently if the mom want's the baby right? Still a "piece of skin" right?
Yes. The same thing. Just because I want a job at a gigacorporation, it doesn't mean I work for it.
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If you do, at least your consistent. A lot of folks I've talked to about abortion also believe it's a human life
but rationalize it's murder by saying they'd do it anyways or that we're better off. Usually the whole not wanting the government interfere in their lives doesn't really play a big role in their arguments. While I could sympathize with that viewpoint, they'd probably have no issue with the government interfering in their lives in just about every other way including paying for the dang abortion.
There is no need to rationalize anything. It is "human life" as in it lives and has human DNA, but we do not care about "human life" that much. We kill sperm all day long and many times intentionally through contraception. We kill many things with human DNA without much penalty, including tumors.
Personhood is a different matter, and I think that it is at least fair to say that something without even a brain shouldn't, ever, ever be considered a person and that is fact. After the development of the brain, you may begin to argue about personhood. But I think it makes most sense legally to use birth as a barrier because it is unambiguous.
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