Inuyasha wrote:
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Vigilans wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
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AceOfSpades wrote:
Making homophobes uncomfortable doesn't help em accept homosexuality or come to terms with it if they happen to be gay, it only makes homophobia worse. If you don't want em acting like children, then don't act like one yourself. Insinuating that they're secretly gay and making the problem worse is an immature way of dealing with it. It is self-defeating, petty, and reflects the shortsightedness of a child.
They're never going to accept homosexuality. I might as well get some laughs at them, because treating them as equals doesn't accomplish anything other then give them a sense of entitlement and credibility that they don't deserve. Making them uncomfortable by posting videos of Village People songs is not childish compared to viewing someone's preference in love and sexual partnership as a 'neurological impediment' because it goes against their interpretations of some 2,000 year old work of fiction
And maybe a thousand years from now people will look at George Washington and say he couldn't possibly have existed. Seriously, the Bible may have more truth in it than some people here are willing to admit.
That won't happen. The only evidence for Jesus outside of the Bible is a vague record about a guy getting executed by the Roman authorities. I don't even know if that is a true story. George Washington on the other hand, much like many Roman emperors and politicians (long before Jesus and after) has vast amounts of documentation supporting his existence, in addition to actual writing he himself did, letters he wrote, etc.
Let's not forget just how many people 2,000 years ago were crucified.
Yep. It could have been anybody. But I think the reason the document was linked with Jesus is that it stated something along the lines of 'rabble-rousing Jew' or something. Like I said, I don't even know if the document is valid, or if its just some anecdotal story I heard or read about a long time ago
Just because there isn't much to go on anymore, doesn't mean it didn't actually happen. Just cause there are no longer records of a man existing, an event happening, etc. doesn't mean that the man existed, or the events happened as stated in the Bible. To dismiss the Bible as fiction is the same mistake people made about the city of Troy (if I remember correctly there is evidence that the city of Troy did in fact exist).
Well, one thing about the Bible is that most of the places it references actually existed and lasted in various forms through antiquity up to the modern age, or their ruins were known (this excludes the book of Mormon which has a bunch of hogwash about Nephites and other fictional North American civilizations). There was some belief that Troy perhaps was fictional, but it was also understood that it was razed to the ground and so it wasn't expected to be found without an extensive search. And even so, the story of the Trojan War was likely mostly fictional, as there was only word of mouth as a means of transferring information between the Heroic Age (Mycenaeans, Trojans, Minoans, etc...) and the Classical Age of Ancient Greece (Athenians, Spartans, Corinthians, Argives, etc). The Trojan War likely did happen, but were Hector & Achilles real? Doubtful, in the way they were described. Homer (if he was a real person) basically took a lot of legends that had been passed around for hundreds of years and put them all together in a singular fashion. However, they have found many Heroic Age cities in the area referred to Illion, which could correspond to the people referred to as Trojans. But there are still no actual writings from Jesus, and no real direct evidence he existed. But I don't really care, personally, and I doubt all billion and a half or so Christians do either
Also, as to your mentioning of the Dark Ages- the Christians worked very hard from this time period up until the Renaissance to destroy much of the knowledge of the Greeks and other antiquity civilizations. You have the Arabs to thank for translating their works into Arabic, thus saving them, and these works were later translated into Italian
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24 Apr 2011, 10:22 pm
So now the dark ages was a massive conspiracy to seize power?
