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09 Jul 2011, 9:59 pm

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Considering the Department of Education actively tries to push Atheism onto students actually it is shoving atheism onto kids, in addition to denying parents their constitutional rights.

How is the DOE imposing Atheism, when all they are really trying to do is impose a competitive level of practical education, especially in the sciences?

Science =\= Atheism


Teaching that Christianity is completely bad without mentioning the good things Christianity has does equal preaching atheism, the same is true about bashing Jewish people (though they have the advantage of being able to call people out as being anti-semetic).


Did Glenn Beck tell you this?


Nope, it is the fact that a few years ago one of the required readings for educators to be was by Bill Ayers, among other indicators.



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09 Jul 2011, 10:00 pm

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I'm not telling anyone there going to hell because they dont believe anything I say. so no, i'm not a hypocrite
and i certainly wouldnt tell a child anything like that to damage thier growing mind


My growing mind would have appreciated some data. I was forced to attend church with no information on why. I was - for a while - put in Sunday School which explained absolutely nothing.

It is not so much that the educational system pushes atheism - it certainly does not push science. It simply assumes atheism. Teachers who have been taught by professors who studiede in departments that assume atheism will in most cases not come up with anything original.

Contemporary education up through high school in this country is in most cases a misnomer. Daycare plus socialization.

But I don't believe the DOA pushes atheism, it pushes uniformity. If the standard model were theist, the kiddies would be sociualized as - say - Methodists.



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09 Jul 2011, 10:15 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
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Considering the Department of Education actively tries to push Atheism onto students actually it is shoving atheism onto kids, in addition to denying parents their constitutional rights.

How is the DOE imposing Atheism, when all they are really trying to do is impose a competitive level of practical education, especially in the sciences?

Science =\= Atheism


Teaching that Christianity is completely bad without mentioning the good things Christianity has does equal preaching atheism, the same is true about bashing Jewish people (though they have the advantage of being able to call people out as being anti-semetic).


Did Glenn Beck tell you this?


Nope, it is the fact that a few years ago one of the required readings for educators to be was by Bill Ayers, among other indicators.


And this book by Bill Ayers emphasized that Christianity was completely bad, without mentioning any good things about Christianity?

What book was it?



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09 Jul 2011, 10:27 pm

Must be one of these:

Education: An American Problem. Bill Ayers, Radical Education Project, 1968, ASIN B0007H31HU OCLC 33088998

The Good Preschool Teacher: Six Teachers Reflect on Their Lives, William Ayers, Teachers College Press, 1989, ISBN 978-0-8077-2946-5

To Teach: The Journey of a Teacher, William Ayers, Teachers College Press, 1993, ISBN 978-0-8077-3262-5*

To Become a Teacher: Making a Difference in Children's Lives, William Ayers, Teachers College Press, 1995, ISBN 978-0-8077-3455-1

City Kids, City Teachers: Reports from the Front Row, William Ayers (Editor) and Patricia Ford (Editor), New Press, 1996, ISBN 978-1-56584-328-8

Teaching for Social Justice: A Democracy and Education Reader, William Ayers (Editor), Jean Ann Hunt (Editor), Therese Quinn (Editor), 1998, ISBN 978-1-56584-420-9

Teacher Lore: Learning from Our Own Experience, William H. Schubert (Editor) and William C. Ayers (Editor), Educator's International Press, 1999, ISBN 978-1-891928-03-1

Teaching from the Inside Out: The Eight-Fold Path to Creative Teaching and Living, Sue Sommers (Author), William Ayers (Foreword), Authority Press, 2000, ISBN 978-1-929059-02-7

A Simple Justice: The Challenge of Small Schools, William Ayers, Teachers College Press, 2000, ISBN 978-0-8077-3963-1

A School of Our Own: Parents, Power, and Community at the East Harlem Block Schools, Tom Roderick (Author), William Ayers (Author), Teachers College Press, 2001, ISBN 978-0-8077-4157-3

Teaching the Personal and the Political: Essays on Hope and Justice, William Ayers, Teachers College Press, 2004, ISBN 978-0-8077-4461-1

Teaching Toward Freedom: Moral Commitment and Ethical Action in the Classroom, William Ayers, Beacon Press, 2004, ISBN 978-0-8070-3269-5

City Kids, City Schools: More Reports from the Front Row, Ruby Dee (Foreword), Jeff Chang (Afterword), William Ayers (Editor), Billings, Gloria Ladson (Editor), Gregory Michie (Editor), Pedro Noguera (Editor), New Press, August 2008, ISBN 978-1-59558-338-3

To Teach: the journey, in comics, William Ayers and Ryan Alexander-Tanner, Jonathan Kozol(Foreword), Teachers College Press, 2010, ISBN 978-0-8077-5062-9

The man has a B.A. from the University of Michigan; a Master's Degree (M.Ed.) from the Bank Street College of Education (M.Ed.); and both a Master's (Ed.M) and Doctorate (ED.D) from the Teachers College at Columbia University.

Smart guy. All of those degrees in education mean much more than any High School or G.E.D. diploma.



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09 Jul 2011, 10:37 pm

So, the US Department of Education established one of the above books as required reading for teachers? And the main emphasis of the book was that students should be taught that Christianity was completely bad, with no redeeming qualities?

Which book was it?



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09 Jul 2011, 10:40 pm

I wish I knew ... for that matter, I wish Inuyasha knew ... :roll:



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10 Jul 2011, 6:32 am

richardbenson wrote:
Religion needs to stay out of everything. I think it should be illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to attend church, i know it severly damaged my psyche because i wasnt mature and couldnt grasp anything the pastor was saying. Luckly now that i'm older and a bit wiser i've overcome that damage but still, it would have been more ideal if i never had to deal with that clutterfu-ck that is on sunday


You are advocating abridging the rights of parents to teach their children the values and customs of their family? What would you recommend? Making the the State the effective parent of our children?

Be careful of what you wish for. You just might get it.

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10 Jul 2011, 8:03 am

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