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28 Jul 2011, 10:45 pm

transformingcar, there's an easy solution to your dilemma: stop posting on this thread. No one but yourself is to blame if you keep on coming back here, and no one owes you the last word on anything.

Are you sure it's Asperger's or autism you were dx'd with? You seem rather emotional for an Aspie.

wrt weddings: one of the best weddings I can remember as a kid was the one where I escaped out the back of the church and went to watch praying mantises and skipper butterflys in the landscaping. Probably not an option for kids these days - no one lets kids do anything unsupervised, for fear that some pedophile will snatch them.



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28 Jul 2011, 11:02 pm

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Are you sure it's Asperger's or autism you were dx'd with? You seem rather emotional for an Aspie.


Are you saying that poeople wtih Asperger's or autism can't be emotionall!?

if normal poeple can't Love and aspies can't love.
then I guess there is no room for emotions on either side now is there?

and I do have aspergers... but maybe unlike you I havn't thrown away my feelings.
every one even aspergers/autisim can get emotional at times...
for me it is when I see people lose sight of trully important things... like childhood.

We will never agree on this topic and we all know it so please.... stop making me feel bad.
I'm beginning to feel like your a bully.
you are bullying me by using my compassion against me. that is what i call an emotionall bully...
you are clearly trying to cyberbully me.



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28 Jul 2011, 11:15 pm

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Are you sure it's Asperger's or autism you were dx'd with? You seem rather emotional for an Aspie.


Are you saying that poeople wtih Asperger's or autism can't be emotionall!?

*sigh*
No. I am saying that Aspies tend to be less emotional than NTs.

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and I do have aspergers... but maybe unlike you I havn't thrown away my feelings.

I have feelings, but apparently less than NTs. I come to this site partly to have discussions where I'm not accused of being cold and unfeeling, which is what NTs tend to see Aspies as displaying.

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stop making me feel bad.

No one here can "make" you feel anything.

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you are clearly trying to cyberbully me.

*snort*
honey, I hope you are never disillusioned about the true nature of cyberbullying.



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28 Jul 2011, 11:17 pm

Cyberbullies, cyberbullies everywhere.


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28 Jul 2011, 11:23 pm

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No one here can "make" you feel anything.

That response has to have come from an aspie ;)

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I have feelings, but apparently less than NTs. I come to this site partly to have discussions where I'm not accused of being cold and unfeeling, which is what NTs tend to see Aspies as displaying.

I get why some NTs may discriminate us, I would.



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28 Jul 2011, 11:24 pm

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I have feelings, but apparently less than NTs. I come to this site partly to have discussions where I'm not accused of being cold and unfeeling, which is what NTs tend to see Aspies as displaying.


It seems some of those NTs might be right for once... if you discriminate children then you are "cold and unfeeling"

i'm done trying to get throught to you... your a bully and you know it.

I'm just done with this topic... you have no need to reply to this post becuase I'm done here.

leave me out if this and have fun with your fellow bullies!



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28 Jul 2011, 11:39 pm

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I have feelings, but apparently less than NTs. I come to this site partly to have discussions where I'm not accused of being cold and unfeeling, which is what NTs tend to see Aspies as displaying.


It seems some of those NTs might be right for once... if you discriminate children then you are "cold and unfeeling"

i'm done trying to get throught to you... your a bully and you know it.

I'm just done with this topic... you have no need to reply to this post becuase I'm done here.

leave me out if this and have fun with your fellow bullies!

Ok, bye.

ps to you and blunnet: one does not 'discriminate someone,' one discriminates for or against someone.



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28 Jul 2011, 11:41 pm

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It seems some of those NTs might be right for once... if you discriminate children then you are "cold and unfeeling"

Aren't you being a bit unfair here?

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28 Jul 2011, 11:50 pm

It's funny because his demands to be left alone will obviously be ignored by a bully and act as a 'troll me harder' sign.


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29 Jul 2011, 12:02 am

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ps to you and blunnet: one does not 'discriminate someone,' one discriminates for or against someone.

ok, well, sorry for intruding like that, I didn't get that much how this discussion is getting, well, my opnion is that there will always be discrimination, some way or the other, I mean, the fact that you would not want a criminal or even a former criminals sitting next to you, it looks to be some sort of discrimination as you are rejecting a group of people, and so on, not to mention that kids also discriminate.

Now when it comes to transformingcar's claim on "kids being discriminated", well, it depends I think, at least a parent of an autistic child, being ordered to leave the restaurant, because their child is throwing a tantrum, the parent would feel discrimination, well, as an owner of a restaurant I wouldn't want problematic kids, then I think I am discriminating certain kids for my convenience, and I'm not saying this is necessarily a bad thing.



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29 Jul 2011, 12:10 am

blunnet wrote:
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ps to you and blunnet: one does not 'discriminate someone,' one discriminates for or against someone.

ok, well, sorry for intruding like that, I didn't get that much how this discussion is getting, well, my opnion is that there will always be discrimination, some way or the other, I mean, the fact that you would not want a criminal or even a former criminals sitting next to you, it looks to be some sort of discrimination as you are rejecting a group of people, and so on, not to mention that kids also discriminate.

Now when it comes to transformingcar's claim on "kids being discriminated", well, it depends I think, at least a parent of an autistic child, being ordered to leave the restaurant, because their child is throwing a tantrum, the parent would feel discrimination, well, as an owner of a restaurant I wouldn't want problematic kids, then I think I am discriminating certain kids for my convenience, and I'm not saying this is necessarily a bad thing.

No need to apologize; it was just a comment on grammar.



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29 Jul 2011, 2:18 am

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Tequila wrote:
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Generally they are not culpable because they do not understand what they do.


That depends. I think a 15-year-old 'child' is perfectly capable of understanding that opening fire on innocent people is horrific.


March 1st 2000, Flint Michigan. 6yo shot and killed another 6yo,


Actually that was on leap year.



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29 Jul 2011, 2:56 am

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Are you sure it's Asperger's or autism you were dx'd with? You seem rather emotional for an Aspie.


Okay, I know it's a long-established, unwritten custom on PPR to discipline people who make rather foolish, impulsive, psychoanalyzing, and self-righteous comments, but this crosses a bloody line. Especially given that it's you (someone whose "not sure if you have it or not") questioning someone who I suspect is telling the truth when they say they were actually diagnosed with the disorder by a professional.

I find this disconcerting mainly because the "less emotionality" in Aspies theme is hogwash. A substantial amount of people with Asperger's also have Bipolar Disorder (which indicates vast MOOD SWINGS entailing radically changing EMOTIONS), Anxiety Disorder (which indicates regular experiences of the EMOTION known a worry), Obsession Compulsive Disorder (which entails intense experiences of the EMOTION known as fear triggering a BEHAVIOUR), Panic Disorder (which entails becomming paralyzed by a highly concentrated dose of the EMOTION known as FEAR), are known to intellectualize THEIR EMOTIONS (entailing real struggles with them), have been noted to express an extreme EMOTIONAL reaction due to sensory sensitivities, and are driven by EMOTIONS of happiness and euphoria into various special interests. The only evidence of "less emotionality" is the fact Aspies don't generally attach the same emotional significance to social settings as Neurotypicals do and that a significant amount have Alexithymia, the inability to understand and identify one's emotional state. Nevertheless, I'd like to say having a [i]berserk button[/u] over certain issues is quite common among Aspies.


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29 Jul 2011, 6:45 am

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I hate going out and paying for a meal, only to have several tables of noisy children and screaming babies come in.


Yes, it's not on. The parents think that their offspring are adorable, no matter what, so everyone else has to put up with them. It's not fair on other paying customers.

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I end up wolfing down ~$15 worth of food that I'd rather enjoy at a slow pace, just so I can leave.


Are you eating at a chain? If you know the owner or you're in a owner-operated restaurant, might you get him to actually say something? Doing it when the family has just arrived is best - more likelihood of the owner not being out of pocket. If there are lots of screaming kids though, you have a problem. You might as well stand there, howling at the moon. In which case, just make a mental note never to visit this restaurant again.

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All while resisting the urge to walk over and smack the living sh** out of the b***h who just ignores the incessant shrieking of her precious little parasites.


Exactly. For this - and other reasons - is why I haven't eaten out at pubs for months, because often they're full of nasty little inconveniences like this - and when I have eaten out (at restaurants), there haven't been any whining children.

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I wish every restaurant banned children. I do not understand this mentality that everyone loves kids and places them above adults.


Nazism has this nice little tenet of the child's word being superior to the adults: "When an opponent declares, 'I will not come over to your side, 'I calmly say, 'Your child belongs to us already...What are you? You will pass on. Your decendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing but this new community."



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29 Jul 2011, 6:50 am

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ps to you and blunnet: one does not 'discriminate someone,' one discriminates for or against someone.

ok, well, sorry for intruding like that, I didn't get that much how this discussion is getting, well, my opnion is that there will always be discrimination, some way or the other, I mean, the fact that you would not want a criminal or even a former criminals sitting next to you, it looks to be some sort of discrimination as you are rejecting a group of people, and so on, not to mention that kids also discriminate.


Indeed - if you were a woman who had been raped and beaten by a former partner, would you want to employ a gang-rapist who had served his time and looked like he was eyeing you up like prey at the job interview? Why not? Discrimination!

There are times when discrimination is good for personal safety and the convenience of others. This all needs to be taken into account.



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29 Jul 2011, 6:53 am

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Now when it comes to transformingcar's claim on "kids being discriminated", well, it depends I think, at least a parent of an autistic child, being ordered to leave the restaurant, because their child is throwing a tantrum, the parent would feel discrimination, well, as an owner of a restaurant I wouldn't want problematic kids, then I think I am discriminating certain kids for my convenience, and I'm not saying this is necessarily a bad thing.


It's not a good situation all round but then surely the parent would know - probably through these experiences - that taking children to places like this is not good for them?